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Best All Time Test XII

tooextracool

International Coach
Craig said:
My all-time XI

SG Gavaskar
JB Hobbs
GA Headley
*IVA Richards
RG Pollack
+APE Knott
Sir RJ Hadlee
SK Warne
Wasim Akram
MD Marshall
M Muralitharan

12th man: Imran Khan
thats a pretty long tail.....and no bradman?
 

Dark Hunter

State Vice-Captain
Here we Go:

J.Hobbs
H.Sutcliffe
D.Bradman
W.Hammond
V.Richards
G.Sobers
A.Ghilchrist
R.Hadlee
W.Akram
F.Trueman
S.Barnes

12th man - M.Waugh
 

Craig

World Traveller
tooextracool said:
thats a pretty long tail.....and no bradman?
Not really as Hadlee, Warne and I guess Wasim can get runs. And didnt I explain why no Bradman?
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Craig said:
Not really as Hadlee, Warne and I guess Wasim can get runs.
knott isnt a no 6 batsman, and hadlee is more of a bowler who could bat, his batting is barely good enough to make the current national side let alone the world 12 side and wasim cant bat for toffee unless he plays zimbabwe.
 

iamdavid

International Debutant
1.Herbert Sutcliffe (England , 1924-35)
2.*Leonard Hutton (England , 1937-55)
3.Donald Bradman (Australia , 1928-48)
4.George Headley (Windies , 1929-1954)
5.Garfield Sobers (Windies , 1953-74)
6.Greg Chappell (Australia , 1970-84)
7.+Leslie Ames (England , 1929-39)
8.Richard Hadlee (New Zealand , 1972-90)
9.Malcom Marshall (Windies , 1978-91)
10.Dennis Lillee (Australia , 1970-84)
11.Muttiah Muralitharan (Sri Lanka , 1992-present)
12.Blessing Mahwire (Zimbabwe , 2003-present)
 

Craig

World Traveller
tooextracool said:
knott isnt a no 6 batsman, and hadlee is more of a bowler who could bat, his batting is barely good enough to make the current national side let alone the world 12 side and wasim cant bat for toffee unless he plays zimbabwe.
Well he made a ton v Sri Lanka.

If my top 5 fires, any lower order problems are sort of taken care of.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Gavaskar
Boycott
Lara
Sir Bradman
Sir Richards (Viv)
Sir Sobers
Gilchrist
Wasim Akram
Holding
Murali
Ambrose



12th man for fielding - Jonty
12th man as a batsman - Sachin
12th man as a bowler - Warne





I didn't pick Barry Richards because I never saw him bat. Lara ahead of Sachin because I had only one batting slot left and I always believe that Lara is a slightly better batter than Sachin in Tests.... He is in at 3 to break up the right handers....Murali ahead of Warne because Murali has won matches bowling at us and Warne has not (we play spin really well in India)....Otherwise, the rest were straightforward......
 

bhooth nath

School Boy/Girl Captain
Jack Hobbs
H Sutcliffe
Donald Bradman
Rahul Dravid
Gary Sobers
Viv Richards
Ian Healy
Malcolm Marshall
Wasim Akram
George Lohmann
Muttiah Muralitharan

12th Man: Steve Waugh/ Micheal Holding
 

Bapu Rao Swami

U19 12th Man
L Hutton

S Gavaskar

D Bradman

B Lara

V Richards

G Sobers

A Gilchrist

W Akram

C Ambrose

M Marshall

M Muralitharan

Reserves - Hobbs, Weekes, Tendulkar, Barrington, Imran Khan, Ian Botham, Warne, Dennis Lillee, G Mcgrath, J Garner and Geoff Lohmann.
 

Bapu Rao Swami

U19 12th Man
This is a very interseting article, I found some weeks ago.


"Average century score in test cricket"

- "Scoring a century has always been a great achievement in Test cricket. Apart from superlative batting capabilities, a great deal of concentration, dedication, patience and ability to stay at the wicket are also needed to record a three digit score in Test matches. It has been observed that many batsmen loose patience and throw their wicket after completing their hundred. If you look at the record book and score sheets you will find many incidents of batsmen dismissing just after completing their hundred. A very few have shown the ability to play long innings.

The ever great Don Bradman had the unmatchable and amazing ability to play long innings. His 29 centuries include 12 double hundred and another six scores of plus 150. In short, 18 out of his 29 century innings were in excess of 150 runs. His records show that he never settled for just a three figure innings but always went on to play big and long innings.

However, this sort of ability is not very common even in the best of batsmen. For example, Geoff Boycott has always been regarded as a batsman of highest class with the ability to stay at wickets against every type of bowling. He scored 22 centuries in Test cricket but could register only three knocks of over 150.

I made a study of those batsmen who have scored 12 or more Test centuries. The idea is to find their average century score. For example, Bradman scored 29 centuries. Sum up all the scores of his 29 centuries and divide by 29 to get his average century score. This will give an idea about his average length of each century innings, hence reflecting his ability to stay at the wicket and play big innings.

54 batsmen have scored 12 or more centuries. The break-up is: 16 from England, 13 from Australia, 11 from West Indies, 6 from India, 5 from Pakistan, 2 from New Zealand and one from Sri Lanka. No one has scored 12 or more hundreds for South Africa and Zimbabwe.

As expected DG Bradman heads the list, as his average century score is 185.97. Many would be surprised to know that Zaheer Abbas of Pakistan is at number two position with average century score of 179.83. Zaheer scored over 150 on eight occasions out of his 12 century innings. Brian Lara of West Indies is at number three spot with an average century score of 173.69. Other batsmen with average century score of 150 or more include Hammond, Hutton, Miandad, Gooch, Sobers and Weekes.

Among the current batsmen, Lara is at the top with an average century score of 173.69. This includes 7 innings of more than 150 runs including world record 375 against England. Steve Waugh of Australia is number two with average century score of 144.09. Waugh has so far scored 22 centuries, on 12 occasions he scored over 150 or more runs - a record for any current player - whereas his twin brother Mark Waugh crossed 150 mark only once in his 17 test centuries. What a contrasting difference between the two brothers! Little Indian wonder boy Tendulkar is at number three with average century score of 142.91.

Quite a few batsmen find very hard to play big innings. Allan Lamb of England is one such example. He scored 14 test centuries in his career but never able to cross 150 run mark. Mark Waugh is yet another such player who crossed 150 mark on just one occasion. Some big names like IM Chappell, AJ Stewart, RB Richardson, M Azharuddin, H Sutcliffe were never able to register a double hundred in their illustrated test career. The personal best of all these is somewhere between 190 and 200 runs. Few others like MA Atherton, DL Haynes, MC Cowdrey, JG Wright and AI Kallicharran registered their career best between 180 and 190. "




© CricInfo


http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2000/JUN/039837_CI_30JUN2000.html
 

a massive zebra

International Captain
Bapu Rao Swami said:
This is a very interseting article, I found some weeks ago.


"Average century score in test cricket"

- "Scoring a century has always been a great achievement in Test cricket. Apart from superlative batting capabilities, a great deal of concentration, dedication, patience and ability to stay at the wicket are also needed to record a three digit score in Test matches. It has been observed that many batsmen loose patience and throw their wicket after completing their hundred. If you look at the record book and score sheets you will find many incidents of batsmen dismissing just after completing their hundred. A very few have shown the ability to play long innings.

The ever great Don Bradman had the unmatchable and amazing ability to play long innings. His 29 centuries include 12 double hundred and another six scores of plus 150. In short, 18 out of his 29 century innings were in excess of 150 runs. His records show that he never settled for just a three figure innings but always went on to play big and long innings.

However, this sort of ability is not very common even in the best of batsmen. For example, Geoff Boycott has always been regarded as a batsman of highest class with the ability to stay at wickets against every type of bowling. He scored 22 centuries in Test cricket but could register only three knocks of over 150.

I made a study of those batsmen who have scored 12 or more Test centuries. The idea is to find their average century score. For example, Bradman scored 29 centuries. Sum up all the scores of his 29 centuries and divide by 29 to get his average century score. This will give an idea about his average length of each century innings, hence reflecting his ability to stay at the wicket and play big innings.

54 batsmen have scored 12 or more centuries. The break-up is: 16 from England, 13 from Australia, 11 from West Indies, 6 from India, 5 from Pakistan, 2 from New Zealand and one from Sri Lanka. No one has scored 12 or more hundreds for South Africa and Zimbabwe.

As expected DG Bradman heads the list, as his average century score is 185.97. Many would be surprised to know that Zaheer Abbas of Pakistan is at number two position with average century score of 179.83. Zaheer scored over 150 on eight occasions out of his 12 century innings. Brian Lara of West Indies is at number three spot with an average century score of 173.69. Other batsmen with average century score of 150 or more include Hammond, Hutton, Miandad, Gooch, Sobers and Weekes.

Among the current batsmen, Lara is at the top with an average century score of 173.69. This includes 7 innings of more than 150 runs including world record 375 against England. Steve Waugh of Australia is number two with average century score of 144.09. Waugh has so far scored 22 centuries, on 12 occasions he scored over 150 or more runs - a record for any current player - whereas his twin brother Mark Waugh crossed 150 mark only once in his 17 test centuries. What a contrasting difference between the two brothers! Little Indian wonder boy Tendulkar is at number three with average century score of 142.91.

Quite a few batsmen find very hard to play big innings. Allan Lamb of England is one such example. He scored 14 test centuries in his career but never able to cross 150 run mark. Mark Waugh is yet another such player who crossed 150 mark on just one occasion. Some big names like IM Chappell, AJ Stewart, RB Richardson, M Azharuddin, H Sutcliffe were never able to register a double hundred in their illustrated test career. The personal best of all these is somewhere between 190 and 200 runs. Few others like MA Atherton, DL Haynes, MC Cowdrey, JG Wright and AI Kallicharran registered their career best between 180 and 190. "




© CricInfo


http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2000/JUN/039837_CI_30JUN2000.html
Was this done before Lara's 400*?
 

bennyr

U19 12th Man
I love doing this. Always a bit of fun:

J.Hobbs
L.Hutton
D.Bradman
G.Sobers
G.Headley
A.Gilchrist
R.Hadlee
D.Lillee
S.F.Barnes
W.O'Reilly

12: Imran Khan
 

twctopcat

International Regular
Barry Richards
Jack Hobbs
Don Bradman
Graeme Pollock
Viv Richards
Garry Sobers
Adam Gilchrist
Imran Khan
Malcolm Marshall
Dennis Lillee
Muttiah Muralitharan

12th man: Ian Botham/Steve Waugh
 

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