Slow death of international cricket - Page 2

Coach_Pearson · 22-04-2003, 09:02 PM

Okay, say Australia do go back on top after the WI tours Blewy.

What would the Rest of World look like:

Here's My Team
1. MP Vaughn
2. HH Gibbs
3. JH Kallis
4. SR Tendulkar
5. BC Lara
6. Inzamam-ul-Haq
7. R Dravid w/k
8. SM Pollock
9. AR Caddick
10. M Muralitharan
11. M Ntini

(please note team done really quickly)

Blewy · 22-04-2003, 10:26 PM

My side

1. MP Vaughn
2. HH Gibbs
3. JH Kallis
4. SR Tendulkar
5. BC Lara
6. R.Dravid
7. A.Stewart w/k
8. SM Pollock
9. S.Bond
10. S.Akhtar
11. M Muralitharan

Few changes, Dravid would not be my keeper, Alec Stewart is IMO a top player and in a strong side would go well...
Shane Bond and Shoaib Akhtar are neccessary, their records are impeccable against Australia...

Choora · 23-04-2003, 12:22 AM

This idea of Aus facing rest of world is not going to work.If you want a good contest then have Australia play a 5 test match series in India. I can guarantee you that the series would be a thriller, as beating India in India remains a dream for this Aussie team and even though India would have an upper hand in such a series, Australia are such a strong team that they cannot be defeated easily, as such it would be a close contest8D .

marc71178 · 23-04-2003, 01:11 AM

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Originally posted by Blewy
I think there is a solution to this, we need to have a Number 1 team vs the best of the rest series every 2nd year...

AFAIK, the ICC have this idea ready to be used soon, once the ICC table settles down a bit - some sort of festival of cricket every couple of years with this and also the same for ODI players.

Bet Asoka doesn't get a call to take part.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 23-04-2003, 12:40 PM

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[i]Shane Bond and Shoaib Akhtar are neccessary, their records are impeccable against Australia... [/B]

But it is a BEST of the REST not the best against Australia, so I probably wouldn't include Shoaib. He doesn't seem to have the discipline right now.

Also, if it was the best against the Aussies, wouldn't Harbhajan get a call?

warrioryohannan · 23-04-2003, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
But it is a BEST of the REST not the best against Australia, so I probably wouldn't include Shoaib. He doesn't seem to have the discipline right now.

Also, if it was the best against the Aussies, wouldn't Harbhajan get a call?

A team is selected keeping in mind the strength and weakness of the opposition.As such i would like to have Akhter in the Squad if he's fully fit because the bowler that last troubled Ausssies in a test match was none other than Akhter.

Harbhajan should definately be in the team, especially if the test match is being played on subcontinent!

Langeveldt · 23-04-2003, 01:12 PM

My eleven

1.M Attapattu
2.H Gibbs
3.R Dravid
4.S Tendulkar
5.J Kallis
6.S Fleming
7.M Boucher
8.S Pollock
9.H Singh
10.W Vaas
11.S Bond

warrioryohannan · 23-04-2003, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Langeveldt
My eleven

1.M Attapattu
2.H Gibbs
3.R Dravid
4.S Tendulkar
5.J Kallis
6.S Fleming
7.M Boucher
8.S Pollock
9.H Singh
10.W Vaas
11.S Bond

I guess Flemming is in the team just coz of captaincy.Vaughan exclusion cannot be justified and i wouldn't like Vaas to be in the team either.
Do you guys think that Harb should be preferred over Murali??

Anil · 23-04-2003, 01:35 PM

For tests, the rest of the world could look like:

Michael Vaughan
Herschelle Gibbs
Rahul Dravid
Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Shaun Pollock
Mark Boucher
Vasbert Drakes
Chaminda Vaas
Shane Bond
Muthiah Muralitharan

For ODIs:

Sachin Tendulkar
Herschelle Gibbs
Brian Lara
Shiv Chanderpaul
Stephen Fleming
Shaun Pollock
Ridley Jacobs
Vasbert Drakes
Chaminda Vaas
Shane Bond
Muthiah Muralitharan

krkode · 23-04-2003, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by warrioryohannan
Do you guys think that Harb should be preferred over Murali??

Murali is not so bad against Australia either, so I would have Harb in my team only if we went with two spinners :P

Neil Pickup · 23-04-2003, 03:43 PM

Not sure if I can get down to an eleven, so I'll think up a RoW squad (combined Tests and ODIs):

This is a Preliminary Squad of 30(+1) - Blame the ICC

Openers (5)
Michael Vaughan
Mark Richardson
Herschelle Gibbs
Sanath Jayasuriya
Marvan Atapattu

Batsmen (9)
Brian Lara
Ramnaresh Sarwan
*Stephen Fleming
Andy Flower
Sachin Tendulkar
Rahul Dravid
Saurav Ganguly
Virender Sehwag
Inzamam-ul-Haq

Wicketkeepers (3)
Mark Boucher
Rashid Latif
Kumar Sangakkara

All-Rounders (5)
Andy Flintoff
Chris Cairns
Jacques Kallis
Shaun Pollock
Ajit Agarkar

Spinners (3)
Harbhajan Singh
Saqlain Mushtaq
Muttiah Muralitharan

Fast Bowlers (6)
Andrew Caddick
Mervyn Dillon
Shane Bond
Makhaya Ntini
Shoaib Akhtar
Chaminda Vaas

marc71178 · 23-04-2003, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by warrioryohannan
A team is selected keeping in mind the strength and weakness of the opposition.As such i would like to have Akhter in the Squad if he's fully fit because the bowler that last troubled Ausssies in a test match was none other than Akhter.

No, the team would be selected as the best players, not based on efforts against one team

Oh, and I think you'll find it is not Shoaib, but one Andrew Caddick.

marc71178 · 23-04-2003, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neil Pickup
Not sure if I can get down to an eleven, so I'll think up a RoW squad (combined Tests and ODIs):

This is a Preliminary Squad of 30(+1) - Blame the ICC

Erm Neil, I somewhat question how you've ignored so many English middle order players - I'd have thought on current form that at least Hussain and Butcher are worthy.

Also, I guess Kumar's batting's got him in.

Finally, great 5th All rounder, no arguments there

Cloete · 23-04-2003, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by marc71178
Finally, great 5th All rounder, no arguments there

LOL

! he's probably the +1

warrioryohannan · 23-04-2003, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by marc71178
No, the team would be selected as the best players, not based on efforts against one team

Oh, and I think you'll find it is not Shoaib, but one Andrew Caddick.

We are selecting a team to play against Aussies, i.e against ONE TEAM, and whoever has been doing well against them got to be considered for selection.No point in picking up a player that has a good overall record but an awful one against Australia.Thats is the reason as to why most of the people has Shane Bond in their team, coz of his impressive record against Australia!!

And i don't know about Caddick, but i know that Akhter prefered remarkably well in the last test series against Aus, and even in onedayers he has been doing well against them!

22-04-2003, 09:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
Coach_Pearson First Class Debutant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 873	Okay, say Australia do go back on top after the WI tours Blewy. What would the Rest of World look like: Here's My Team 1. MP Vaughn 2. HH Gibbs 3. JH Kallis 4. SR Tendulkar 5. BC Lara 6. Inzamam-ul-Haq 7. R Dravid w/k 8. SM Pollock 9. AR Caddick 10. M Muralitharan 11. M Ntini (please note team done really quickly) __________________ yours in cricket Stephen Pearson

23-04-2003, 12:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
Choora State Regular Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tamil Nadu Posts: 964	This idea of Aus facing rest of world is not going to work.If you want a good contest then have Australia play a 5 test match series in India. I can guarantee you that the series would be a thriller, as beating India in India remains a dream for this Aussie team and even though India would have an upper hand in such a series, Australia are such a strong team that they cannot be defeated easily, as such it would be a close contest8D . __________________ ------------------------------------

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Neil Pickup Cricket Web Staff Member / Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 26,361	Not sure if I can get down to an eleven, so I'll think up a RoW squad (combined Tests and ODIs): This is a Preliminary Squad of 30(+1) - Blame the ICC Openers (5) Michael Vaughan Mark Richardson Herschelle Gibbs Sanath Jayasuriya Marvan Atapattu Batsmen (9) Brian Lara Ramnaresh Sarwan Stephen Fleming Andy Flower Sachin Tendulkar Rahul Dravid Saurav Ganguly Virender Sehwag Inzamam-ul-Haq Wicketkeepers (3) Mark Boucher Rashid Latif Kumar Sangakkara All-Rounders (5) Andy Flintoff Chris Cairns Jacques Kallis Shaun Pollock Ajit Agarkar Spinners (3) Harbhajan Singh Saqlain Mushtaq Muttiah Muralitharan Fast Bowlers (6) Andrew Caddick Mervyn Dillon Shane Bond Makhaya Ntini Shoaib Akhtar Chaminda Vaas __________________ MSN Messenger: minardineil2000 at hotmail dot com \| AAAS Chairman CricketWeb Black \| CricketWeb XI Captain ClarkeWatch: We're Watching Rikki - Are You? Up The Grecians - Exeter City FC Completing the Square: My Cricket Web Blog* Last edited by Neil Pickup; 23-04-2003 at 03:48 PM.

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22-04-2003, 10:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
Blewy Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Your house Posts: 9,964	My side 1. MP Vaughn 2. HH Gibbs 3. JH Kallis 4. SR Tendulkar 5. BC Lara 6. R.Dravid 7. A.Stewart w/k 8. SM Pollock 9. S.Bond 10. S.Akhtar 11. M Muralitharan Few changes, Dravid would not be my keeper, Alec Stewart is IMO a top player and in a strong side would go well... Shane Bond and Shoaib Akhtar are neccessary, their records are impeccable against Australia...

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