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    Aussie ODI squad for WI

    Aussie ODI squad for the WI ODI leg




    NAME STATE AGE CAPS
    Ricky Ponting (captain) TAS 28 168
    Adam Gilchrist (vice-captain) WA 31 162
    Michael Bevan NSW 32 205
    Andrew Bichel QLD 32 46
    Jason Gillespie SA 27 50
    Nathan Hauritz QLD 21 5
    Ian Harvey VIC 31 49
    Matthew Hayden QLD 31 65
    Brad Hogg WA 32 25
    Brett Lee NSW 26 65
    Darren Lehmann SA 33 95
    Jimmy Maher QLD 29 21
    Damien Martyn* WA 31 123
    Glenn McGrath NSW 33 179
    Andrew Symonds QLD 27 63


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    personally i dont see how harvey keeps his spot in the side, we may as well just play another specialist bowler with Bichal, hogg and lee all beoing handy with the bat, all probably better than harvey
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    They were never gonna change the WC squad....

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    not counting gillespie coming back ofcourse :P

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    Re: Aussie ODI squad for WI

    Originally posted by age_master
    Bichal, hogg and lee all beoing handy with the bat, all probably better than harvey
    I would disagree with that (their being better than Harvey). Granted they all have ODI 50s while Harvey doesn't, but I think Harvey is more likely to produce when it matters more consistently (altough Bichel definitely did that in the WC!!)

    I agree that another specialist bowler would be a better pick than a bits-and-pieces guy like Harvey - who, let's face it - wouldn't get near the squads for bowling alone.
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    Harvey just cant dig in and make runs when they are needed he is really just good for a slog.

    At least players like Bichel, Warne, Lee etc.. always show some fight.

    I know Harvey is a very Talented Batsman but he doesent seem to rise to the occasion enough.

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    Originally posted by Eclipse
    Harvey just cant dig in and make runs when they are needed he is really just good for a slog.
    Well this ODIs we're talking about, so does he really need to dig in given the line up he's in?
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    Why is Harvey in the squad you ask? Isn't a batting average of 22 (from the 5 occasions he came in, mostly near the end of the innings) and a bowling average of 19.62 good enough for you?
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    20...that's a rather big number :(:(:(

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    Originally posted by marc71178
    Well this ODIs we're talking about, so does he really need to dig in given the line up he's in?
    What you think that a player can just go out and slog it every time he bats?

    When the top order fails we need somone to dig in and get the team to a respectable total like Bichel did with Beven I am afraid Harvey just seems incapable of doing that.

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    Harvey's problem is his attitude to the game, a large part of why Victorian coach David Hookes was about to drop him before his World Cup call-up. If he tried as hard as his teammates, he'd be a great all-rounder for Australia, but it appears as if he's just going to be another mediocre player.

    On another topic, surprised the Australians haven't dropped Lehmann and a few other oldies, since Lehmann has stated he won't be around for WI 2007, maybe a chance to blood Clarke for then...

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    yeah good point m8. i feel lehmann and waugh should b dropped. and bring in some youngsters. or even Bevo. come to think of it i feel australia should be giving bevan a go in the tests. he's a better test player than he is ODI(and that;s sayin sumthin:O).
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    mate one of my fav players is bevo and i remember in a certain test at the adelaide oval bevo hit 87* and took 2, 5 wicket hauls for 10 for the match.

    he scores runs for nsw year in year out and lehman is struggling at the moment.


    as for harvey, he is just a decent pura milk anc ing cup player but next level he just doesnt seem to perform. plenty of other guys i bet that given the opportunity would perfomr better than he does.

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    Originally posted by Eclipse
    What you think that a player can just go out and slog it every time he bats?

    When the top order fails we need somone to dig in and get the team to a respectable total like Bichel did with Beven I am afraid Harvey just seems incapable of doing that.
    Oh sorry, I thought that the Australian Top Order were so good that anyone below number 6 only gets a few balls to face, so it's better that they're sloggers.

    How silly of me.

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    Originally posted by marc71178
    Oh sorry, I thought that the Australian Top Order were so good that anyone below number 6 only gets a few balls to face, so it's better that they're sloggers.

    How silly of me.
    What the hell are you on about I never said anything like that you goose.

    I think they should be capable of diging in being a good sloger is importaint but does not take priority IMO

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    Originally posted by Cloete
    yeah good point m8. i feel lehmann and waugh should b dropped. and bring in some youngsters. or even Bevo. come to think of it i feel australia should be giving bevan a go in the tests. he's a better test player than he is ODI(and that;s sayin sumthin:O).
    Bevan has been bounced out of Test Cricket by England twice

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    lehmann made a few last night


    Harvey, anyone who saw harvey batting during the world cup knows that well hes not the greatest, he didn't have a clue at all with shane bond, and a couple of others, bichel looked far more comfortable against bond, and well we all know ehat lee does to quick bowling....


    Harvey with the ball is not really needed, especially if 4 of McGrath, Gillespie, lee, bichel, hogg, warne are playing.

    Symonds, Lehmann, Martyn (though dont think he should be in the team either:P), bevan can bowl more than 10 overs between them

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