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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    Ah, so another bits-and-pieces player?
    Was more thinking a big slogger and a crappy leggie.
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    Smith will play tests. He's a British passport holder, after all.
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    Not sure if you all venture into the Australian Domestic Thread, but I was fortunate enough to see him at the GABBA today, he scored 102* off 102 balls.

    He creamed the QLD attack to all parts, he's particularly hook and pull happy, but I guess that's what happens when QLD bowl so short to him! He's such a powerful player, even his defensive shots raced to cover and mid off. So yeah his batting is quite impressive, he did however get dropped twice, once at around 30 and the second time on 80.

    His bowling was woeful, there is no other word for it. Either too short or full. He took 3 catches at second slip also, one of the catches was excellent, the other 2 were pretty routine.


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    So he's he new Cam White, but without the handicap of being Victorian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    So he's he new Cam White, but without the handicap of being Victorian?
    Indeed. Only slight difference is the White at least had bowling form in his younger days, Smith's bowling is awful.

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    Hes got the deliveries to be a successful spinner. His leg break can turn a far bit, his flipper looks decent. Haven't seen him wrongun yet. Jenner said he needed 5 years before he would be ready, he said that last year so hes still got 4 years to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvester View Post
    Hes got the deliveries to be a successful spinner. His leg break can turn a far bit, his flipper looks decent. Haven't seen him wrongun yet. Jenner said he needed 5 years before he would be ready, he said that last year so hes still got 4 years to go.
    Jenner in hyping up young leg-spinner? Shock.

    I could name 10 leg-spinners since Warne who have received similar praise from Jenner.

    I don't believe he will ever rise above part-timer status with his leg-breaks, which is fair enough as his batting holds all the talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    So he's he new Cam White, but without the handicap of being Victorian?
    So Victorians actually genuinely do believe this stuff about Australia selectors being biased against Victorian players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noble One View Post
    Jenner in hyping up young leg-spinner? Shock.

    I could name 10 leg-spinners since Warne who have received similar praise from Jenner.

    I don't believe he will ever rise above part-timer status with his leg-breaks, which is fair enough as his batting holds all the talent.
    It's not so much the hype but more the time frame he mentioned. He stated Smith won't reach his full potential till about 2012 and that is assuming he keeps working on his bowling. NSW are giving hm lots of bowling chances. If he gets his line and length sorted, then we should get a clearer picture to whether he will be threatening enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvester View Post
    If he gets his line and length sorted, then we should get a clearer picture to whether he will be threatening enough.
    It wouldn't be that difficult to go and find 50 other bowlers who this statement could be applied to. There's a reason why almost everyone who's tried to bowl wristspin has found they don't have a hope of controlling it to the neccessary degree to bowl in First-Class cricket.

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    I know you can apply that every leg spinner to ever play the game. What I mean is, once he actually bowls more the right line and length we can get a better gague to how much turn he gets, drift, flight etc. And from that you have a better indication of how much of a threat is leg break can be.

    We did it with White and found he gets no turn therefore he was never going to be a real threat. So far I've only seen Smith bowling short of length or full tosses as mentioned earlier where you can't really judge if he stock delivery will be a threat.

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    16 overs 0 wickets for 110 runs. rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvester View Post
    I know you can apply that every leg spinner to ever play the game. What I mean is, once he actually bowls more the right line and length we can get a better gague to how much turn he gets, drift, flight etc.
    No - if, not when. Most wristspinners don't do so; if he does he'll be one remarkable specimin.

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    Yes when, not if. You can't tell me that he will never land the ball in the right line and length. Consistency is another matter and even if he did become consistent, if his leg spin doesn't turn (aka White) then hes never going to be overly threatening.

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