Hopes, Watson or White in Australian ODI side

Captain Cricket · 20-01-2008, 12:36 AM

The way I see it, our best 12 includes 7 bats, 1 all-rounder (apart from Symonds) and 4 bowlers. All players are capable of doing well in this Australian side and with the upcoming tri-series I think this will be a difficult decision to face come selection time for the Aussie selectors.

I really feel there's only room for one atm...

Perm · 20-01-2008, 12:38 AM

White would have to displace one of the incumbent batsmen, which he isn't good enough to do. Given how injury prone Watson is, then it's a fairly straight-forward case as to who of the 3 should be in the side.

NUFAN · 20-01-2008, 12:42 AM

James Hopes.

He's a very good cricketer, never going to be too flashy but he gets the job done and is an adaptable player good for most situations.

Matt79 · 20-01-2008, 01:11 AM

Long term I think Watson is far and away the best option of those listed, but at the moment, while he's (still *sigh*) getting himself fit and right for cricket, Hopes is the best choice.

duffer · 20-01-2008, 01:32 AM

Hopes has done nothing wrong to have him forced out of the side. Looked quality with the ball against India.

LongHopCassidy · 20-01-2008, 01:46 AM

Never rated Hopes with the ball, sorry. Always gave off the very real inkling that he was going to be carted next ball, Indian summer or not. Excellent with the bat, granted, but that's not the ODI team's biggest gap to fill.

Watson's bowling was coming along in leaps and bounds 2005-06. If he stops channelling Bond then he should be our best bowling all-rounder for the next five years.

If he doesn't, though, Symonds will bowl 10 overs a game.

Craig · 20-01-2008, 02:02 AM

James Hopes.

eglezdzdiyd · 20-01-2008, 02:05 AM

Hopes for sure!

Prince EWS · 20-01-2008, 02:55 AM

Watson long term, if he can sort his fitness issues out. Otherwise, Hopes does a decent enough job. White is not a bowler. Clarke and Symonds are better options in one day cricket, so he'd need to improve his batting to a standard where he displaced one of the other batsmen. It's not there yet, although I could see it happening eventually.

chaminda_00 · 20-01-2008, 03:06 AM

What does Watson have to do to prove his fitness though? He's already started bowling in FC matches regular. Yeah a full season without injury would be great, but is it really needed to prove his fitness for ODI matches. Considering Symonds has secured the Test spot, his unlikely to be needed to play Test other then maybe a few one off matches in case of injury, over the next couple seasons. He just needs to be fit enough to get through ODI tournments. With Symonds and Clarke in the team and maybe Hopes in the squad, he doesn't need to play every match either.

Prince EWS · 20-01-2008, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chaminda_00

What does Watson have to do to prove his fitness though? His already started bowling in FC matches regular.

He's fit now, but I'd like him to prove he can be fitter for a semi-long period. I'd also like to see him get some form on the board with the bat.

chaminda_00 · 20-01-2008, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

He's fit now, but I'd like him to prove he can be fitter for a semi-long period. I'd also like to see him get some form on the board with the bat.

Considering the lack of form opening options outside Dighton, I would have thought his form with the bat in ODs wouldn't be a problem.

Prince EWS · 20-01-2008, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chaminda_00

Considering the lack of form opening options outside Dighton, I would have thought his form with the bat in ODs wouldn't be a problem.

If an opener dropped out, he'd obviously be considered. Nothing much wrong with opening with Hayden and Gilchrist at the moment though...

chaminda_00 · 20-01-2008, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

If an opener dropped out, he'd obviously be considered. Nothing much wrong with opening with Hayden and Gilchrist at the moment though...

If Gilchirst is rotated to give Haddin a decent run in Australian side, then you need a backup opening batsmen. Clake and Hopes IMO are a bit of watse opening the batting. The hard thing though is if his just going to be squad player, his better off playing in the domestic competition. Same would apply for Tait though, but he will probably start most matches after the his WC.

Mister Wright · 20-01-2008, 03:24 AM

Don't know why this question is being asked tbh. Hopes has done more than what's been asked of him and has not only performed well but contributed to wins.

View Poll Results: Who should fill in the all-rounder spot in the ODI side?
James Hopes (RHB and RMF)	15	41.67%
Shane Watson (RHB and RFM)	12	33.33%
Cameron White (RHB and RLS)	4	11.11%
Combination of any two (please specify)	5	13.89%
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Captain Cricket State Vice-Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,402	Hopes, Watson or White in Australian ODI side The way I see it, our best 12 includes 7 bats, 1 all-rounder (apart from Symonds) and 4 bowlers. All players are capable of doing well in this Australian side and with the upcoming tri-series I think this will be a difficult decision to face come selection time for the Aussie selectors. I really feel there's only room for one atm... __________________ Australian Cricket Team Cricket World Cup Champions: 1987, 1999, 2003 and 2007 ICC Champions Trophy: 2006 Ashes Champions: 2006/07

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Prince EWS Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New South Wales Posts: 37,730	Watson long term, if he can sort his fitness issues out. Otherwise, Hopes does a decent enough job. White is not a bowler. Clarke and Symonds are better options in one day cricket, so he'd need to improve his batting to a standard where he displaced one of the other batsmen. It's not there yet, although I could see it happening eventually. __________________ ~ Cribbage

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duffer International Coach Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: So appalled... Posts: 11,338	Hopes has done nothing wrong to have him forced out of the side. Looked quality with the ball against India.

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chaminda_00 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Murali CG Posts: 16,304	What does Watson have to do to prove his fitness though? He's already started bowling in FC matches regular. Yeah a full season without injury would be great, but is it really needed to prove his fitness for ODI matches. Considering Symonds has secured the Test spot, his unlikely to be needed to play Test other then maybe a few one off matches in case of injury, over the next couple seasons. He just needs to be fit enough to get through ODI tournments. With Symonds and Clarke in the team and maybe Hopes in the squad, he doesn't need to play every match either. __________________ The man, the mountain, the Mathews. The greatest all rounder since Keith Miller. (Y) Jaffna Jets CC (Battrick & FTP) RIP WCC and CW Cricket Member of the MSC, JMAS and CVAAS

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