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Marlon Samuels a chucker?
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vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Thought straight away when I saw the thread heading that it must be his quicker ball.
Captain Cricket
State Vice-Captain
Yeah people have been suspecting it for years but they only decided to take action yesterday.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
My initial reaction was that he'd developed Pyloric Stenosis.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Likewise, I'm amazed it's taken until now. Remember Bucknor signalling to the third-Umpire in 2005 after a quicker-ball and still nothing was done.
That was the first time I noticed, but I presume it's been the same since he first picked-up a ball.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
IMO, this is a much fairer system than no-balling on the field. It does look bad live.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
The wrist isn't really going to help him gain more than 2 or 3 mph TBH.
That said, I've never seen one hell of a lot wrong with Afridi's quicker-ball. But nor have I ever taken much notice of his elbow during the course of it - I'm normally too flabbergasted that he can get it down at 80mph off 3 or 4 paces (that's remarkable with or without a little extra elbow-flexation).
That said, I've never seen one hell of a lot wrong with Afridi's quicker-ball. But nor have I ever taken much notice of his elbow during the course of it - I'm normally too flabbergasted that he can get it down at 80mph off 3 or 4 paces (that's remarkable with or without a little extra elbow-flexation).
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
It is a very strange wrist though, certainly not one of an ordinary bowler.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
TBF, it is.
All bowlers get their pace from roughly the same areas but in different proportions.
Computer breakdowns have shown that some bowlers get 5%+ of their pace from their wrist action. Others very little.
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
It bends backwards and goes behind the ball completely. Take a look at his delivery in the T20 Bowl Out, it is evident there how his wrist dictates his action by wrapping around the ball.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Right. Had always presumed it'd be fairly equal for all bowlers. And I know I've tried adding extra wrist snap to my delivery and it's had little to no effect (other than meaning I had no clue where it was going, instead of my usual next-to-no-clue where it was going
) so perhaps that clouds the issue for me.The only bowler I've ever seen really obviously using a lot of wrist-snap is Shaun Pollock. Though I read that Devon Malcolm did something similar.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Actually, now you mention it I have seen something to that effect, and having just had a quick look some footage of his bowling-action it's visible even in real-time.
I'd still be interested to find-out just how much of his speed it's estimated to be responsible for.
shortpitched713
International Captain
Tbh Afridi would make a pretty good seamer if he was dedicated and disciplined enough.
I suppose we can just be content though with his one of a kind brand of spin bowling though.
I suppose we can just be content though with his one of a kind brand of spin bowling though.
Captain Cricket
State Vice-Captain
Afridi's not known to turn the ball much, but like Kumble uses drift and changes of pace. Samuels on the other hand has a suspicious elbow bend on his quicker ball.
Stuart Clark's wrist position also isn't very common when he bowls.
Stuart Clark's wrist position also isn't very common when he bowls.