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    Hogg not coming to Warwickshire

    Rumours suggest Zaheer is being approached instead.

    Hmm, Bond and Zaheer Khan - wouldn't fancy facing that county attack!
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    Well they've got Betts, Richardson, Brown, Carter, Sheikh, Wagg and now Bond. I wouldn't want to go for 2 pacers especially when you realise that Giles will be on England duty most of the season and the only spin backup is Neil Smith who is more of a OD player and Spires who is still quite raw. It's not as if they need batting backup though as they have Troughton, Bell, Wagh in the middle order with Ostler and Penney as backup. Their strength in batting even allows them to play Piper down the order as a speciallist keeper. Although the lack of a wicket taking spinner may count against them when trying to challange Surrey, I think they are a good bet for 2nd place.
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    I heard that too that they are approaching Zaheer . But i heard that Bond was not going so they were after Zaheer.

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    Bond has signed.


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    zaheer aint that great, i would try for Bracken or Vaas if i wanted a left arm quick, other players that i would try for:

    (aust only)
    M Clarke
    S Clark
    N Hauritz
    J Davison - could be interesting
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    B Haddin
    J Maher
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    Originally posted by age_master
    zaheer aint that great, i would try for Bracken or Vaas if i wanted a left arm quick, other players that i would try for:

    (aust only)
    M Clarke
    S Clark
    N Hauritz
    J Davison - could be interesting
    R Campbell
    B Haddin
    J Maher
    What a completely unbiased opinion:rolleyes: .

    IMO, Zaheer is far and away a better bowler than Bracken and potentially Vaas.
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    I agree, Mr Mxyzptlk. Vaas is a good bowler with many sensational hauls. But most of his "hauls" came against weak teams. I sincerely think that if you do a comparison of his performances against minnow teams and non-minnow teams, you'll see a large difference.

    But he's still a great bowler, and unlike Zaheer, he's had to carry the whole Sri Lankan pace attack on his shoulders. Srinath and Nehra shared the load with Zaheer.

    And Bracken...heh, I don't know him enough to compare him, but his stats look normal...not like most aussie bowlers of his era...

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    Originally posted by krkode
    most of his "hauls" came against weak teams.
    I have stated this exact same opinion before. I'm glad I have some support.

    Before anyone jumps on my case, I have also stated that Vaas has the potential to be as good as, dare I say, Wasim in the next couple of years if he continues to improve as he has recently.

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    If Bond bowls like he did in the latter half of the World Cup for Warwickshire, then he will take alot of wickets for them & possibly single handidly win a couple of games too because he's handy with the bat too.

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    Vaas may not have taken as many wickets or big hauls against teams like Australia but he almost always keeps the runs right down and he is a class bowler

    Bracken, has not played much international cricket, class left arm bowler, good slower ball, accurate, reasonably quick - bowls well for NSW though does not take many big hauls as he bowls with some of the best bowlers in the world - Lee, McGrath and Macgill in piticular but also good bowlers like Stuark Clark (Mcgraths understudy)

    ohh and hes the tallest cricketer in NSW - hes absolutley huge - dwarf's Lee easily

    ohh and he often bowls in the later end of the innings for NSW

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    Originally posted by krkode
    I agree, Mr Mxyzptlk. Vaas is a good bowler with many sensational hauls. But most of his "hauls" came against weak teams. I sincerely think that if you do a comparison of his performances against minnow teams and non-minnow teams, you'll see a large difference.
    Heres a break down of Vaas's avg's / strike rates vs each team in ODI

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    Originally posted by age_master
    Vaas may not have taken as many wickets or big hauls against teams like Australia but he almost always keeps the runs right down and he is a class bowler

    From the stats I just got for him he doesn't do either very well only about 1.2 Wickets per game and goes at over 4.2 runs a over.

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    Thanks for that Rich.

    It speaks good of him to see his "Top 5 Rabbits" are all respectably big names in cricket.

    Not sure what exactly this says, but the only teams that are below his overall average of 27 (?) are IND, NZ, KEN, ZIM, WI, BAN, CAN.

    The only "respectable" teams out of that list are probably India, NZ and WI...

    His averages agains SA, PAK, ENG, and AUS are all in the 30s...

    He's not bad, but there are better, that's all I'm saying

    Considering, he's singlehandedly carried the Lankan pace attack over the years, adds to his merit.

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    some stats on other bowlers

    Brett Lee: hahaha, he has got out twice to jayasuria,
    bowling though brilliant - SR of 27.6
    Bunny's
    1. Saeed Anwar (4)
    2. AJ Stewart (3)
    3. Azhar Mahmood (3)
    4. G Kirsten (3)
    5. JN Rhodes (3)

    Glenn McGrath: - been around longer so stats a little more developed, has batted just 49 times out of 178 games and has got out just 23 times.

    bowling SR 34
    SR 6 against namibia, average of 2.14


    bunny's
    1. G Kirsten (7)
    2. HH Gibbs (7)
    3. ST Jayasuriya (7)
    4. CL Cairns (5)
    5. GW Flower (5)


    that shows true class, those are some of the best ODI batsmen in the world


    Nathan Bracken: has not played many ODI's at all but has played pretty solidly in those games - has not batted in ODI games at all (11 games total)

    the ONLY batsman whom he has got out more than once is ... wait for it SR Tndulkar, yes thats right the "best" batsman in the world, he has also claimed A flower and Aravinda de silva

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    Well that exposes the truth about how good McGrath is, apart from Grant Flower you'd have to say that to dismiss some of those players more than 5 times is exceptional.

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