Glenn Turner v Martin Crowe

[archie mac]

Just in case people don't realise, Crowe's average in 1st-class cricket was an outstanding 56.02 with very close to 20,000 runs. That's by far the best of any kiwi and just below Wally Hammond at 29th on the all-time list of players who have played in more than 50 innings and better than players like Hutton, Weekes, Sobers, Kallis, Richards, Pollock, Worrell, Hayden, Miandad, Hick, Chappell, both Waughs, H.Sutcliffe, Compton, Lara, Zaheer Abbas, Border, Harvey, Hobbs and Inzamam to name a few too many

What do you call that an OM? or a double negative? Or what?

 

[Fiery]

What do you call that an OM? or a double negative? Or what?

Not sure tbh

 

[Richard]

Can't think of any other spinners who have opened tbh

Marlon Samuels and Russel Arnold are the first two who come to my mind.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Marlon Samuels and Russel Arnold are the first two who come to my mind.

I've got a feeling that Richard Illingworth opened the bowling in the WCQF against Sri Lanka, I recall him being hit for a couple of fours and then taking an early wicket.

 

[Prince EWS]

Marlon Samuels and Russel Arnold are the first two who come to my mind.

Yeah, I remember both of those. Both against Australia IIRC.

Razzak of Bangladesh in this match as well.

 

[river end]

Definitely the one that got away. Our best tournament ever and the best chance we have had of winning it. I was at the semi that was stolen by Inzi and was pretty devastated.

Actually, I thought it was just - considering NZ threw their last qualifying match against Pakistan to make sure Australia didn't make the semis. Anyway, that's old ground.........

 

[Smudge]

Actually, I thought it was just - considering NZ threw their last qualifying match against Pakistan to make sure Australia didn't make the semis.

Utter rot.

 

[Fiery]

Utter rot.

That's what I was thinking tbh

 

[slugger]

nz won 6 in a row and lost its 7th to pakistan.. but because the systems of winning games back then had not be worked out.. the eng vs pak match was given a point each even through pakistan had completed their inn.
Pakistan 74 (Derek Pringle 3-8) (40.2 ov); England 24-1 (8 ov). No result.
this would have resulted in australia making the top 4

but hey thats cricket..

i pick crowe...

 

[Lillian Thomson]

nz won 6 in a row and lost its 7th to pakistan.. but because the systems of winning games back then had not be worked out.. the eng vs pak match was given a point each even through pakistan had completed their inn.
Pakistan 74 (Derek Pringle 3-8) (40.2 ov); England 24-1 (8 ov). No result.
this would have resulted in australia making the top 4

but hey thats cricket..

i pick crowe...

What's the England game got to do with anything? No one can control the weather. The inference was that New Zealand deliberately lost to Pakistan to ensure that Pakistan qualified and not Australia. Utter nonsense of course, Australia didn't qualify because they lost half of their group matches.

 

[Fiery]

What's the England game got to do with anything? No one can control the weather. The inference was that New Zealand deliberately lost to Pakistan to ensure that Pakistan qualified and not Australia. Utter nonsense of course, Australia didn't qualify because they lost half of their group matches.

Exactly.

 

[slugger]

id like to think nz was a great team then.. but only a true great team would throw any match (lose a battle to win the war) NZ then or even now can not dictate the out come of an overall compitetion .. let alone the wc.. ... my augement was that the system was flawed... believe me the evidence had already revealed its self in the pak vs eng game.. and truely became appreant when rsa required 22 off the last ball in the semi..

 

[river end]

What's the England game got to do with anything? No one can control the weather. The inference was that New Zealand deliberately lost to Pakistan to ensure that Pakistan qualified and not Australia. Utter nonsense of course, Australia didn't qualify because they lost half of their group matches.

Well, before that game against Pakistan, NZ had already finished on top of the table. If they had beaten Pakistan, Pakistan would have been out, allowing Australia into the qualifying 4.

The semis were 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3. But because Australia were the then defending champions the game against would have been played in Australia.

So if you are NZ would you rather play Pakistan at home in the semis or Australia in Australia?

Ok they were already assured of finishing top, but there was NO WAY NZ were going to try to win that game.

 

[Fiery]

Well, before that game against Pakistan, NZ had already finished on top of the table. If they had beaten Pakistan, Pakistan would have been out, allowing Australia into the qualifying 4.

The semis were 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3. But because Australia were the then defending champions the game against would have been played in Australia.

So if you are NZ would you rather play Pakistan at home in the semis or Australia in Australia?

Ok they were already assured of finishing top, but there was NO WAY NZ were going to try to win that game.

You're so full of **** it's beyond belief. There was never any hint or even the slightest inclination from NZ to ever lose that game deliberately. **** off and die

 

[Flem274*]

You're so full of **** it's beyond belief. There was never any hint or even the slightest inclination from NZ to ever lose that game deliberately. **** off and die

Agreeing with lovely little colourful comments like this is frowned upon, but **** the snobs. AWTA.

 

[cbuts]

Id love to say we threw the game to get rid of the aussie's but, i can barely remember us ever beating Pakistan in the 90's. Imran, Wasim, Waqar, used to make us look like school girls.

Plus the fact the beat us twice and a row and then went to win the whole tournament.

 

[Fiery]

river end's allegation's are nothing short of slander tbh...I would sue the **** if it was still 1992.

As it stands, I'm going to eat him alive on this forum

 

[Smudge]

I certainly don't recall the rule regarding Australia being the defending champion and hence, getting the game at home...

 

[Perm]

You're so full of **** it's beyond belief. There was never any hint or even the slightest inclination from NZ to ever lose that game deliberately. **** off and die

Ban? Yes IMO.

 

[Fiery]

Ban? Yes IMO.

shut up Perm ffs....honestly....I bet you reported it too