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Kamran Akmal vs. Matt Prior

Akmal vs. Prior

  • Kamran Akmal

    Votes: 17 45.9%
  • Matt Prior

    Votes: 15 40.5%
  • My shoelaces are untied

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • Total voters
    37
  • Poll closed .

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
If you would have asked me this a month ago I would've said Prior. But Akmal's keeping and batting have really turned around of late. His keeping in this match, where the ball is bouncing every which way, has been pretty impressive. Plus, go back about a year and a half ago and he was one of the better keepers around. So yeah, Akmal at the moment.
ITSTL, would say the recent "renaissance" of the two has been equally timed myself TBH. If you'd asked me about 2 weeks ago, I'd have gone for the irrelevant-third. If the most recent memory of Prior was The Oval 2007, there's absolutely no way on Earth I'd prefer him, even over Akmal.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
The thing about Prior is that he has never looked a player good enough to keep in tests for me. I agree with Chappell that Prior has been very ordinary. By all accounts, Prior has been keeping better in the ongoing series versus Sri Lanka but it will take more than just one series to convince me that he is upto the task of keeping at the highest level.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
As a pom I tend to watch more of England's tests than any other country's, so I've seen more of Prior. I have to be honest, I think he possibly might just have the game to be a test 7, but I can't say as I see that his keeping will ever instill total faith.

Akmal may've saved his very worst form for England, but his keeping was ordinary on our 05/6 tour and worse in 2006. Admittedly, with the greater swing & seam movement England is probably quite a big ask for a relatively inexperienced keeper, but he did really struggle on that tour. I'd say at its best his batting is decidely decent (I remember him scoring a very fluent ton in the 3rd test in 05/06), but it is the original curate's egg as he couldn't buy a run in 2006.

In conclusion then: neither. :p
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Akmal may've saved his very worst form for England, but his keeping was ordinary on our 05/6 tour and worse in 2006.
:blink: You're kidding, aren't you? UIVMM, Akmal's wicketkeeping was superb in Pakistan in 2005\06, and regressed dramatically in England in 2006. Obviously, it wouldn't count for much if that tour had been a one-off, but it wasn't - it was the start of a slippery-slope.

Any particular missed chances you think of during the 2005\06 tour? I seem to recall one missed stumping during the Bell-Pietersen stand at Faisalabad, but nothing else.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
The thing about Prior is that he has never looked a player good enough to keep in tests for me. I agree with Chappell that Prior has been very ordinary. By all accounts, Prior has been keeping better in the ongoing series versus Sri Lanka but it will take more than just one series to convince me that he is upto the task of keeping at the highest level.
TBH, I think Prior gets more stick regarding his wicketkeeping last summer than he should. He was awful at The Oval, but really, had he missed that Test with injury, he'd have generally been regarded to have had a pretty decent start to his Test career. In the other 6 Tests he missed the odd chance here and there, but no more than that.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
:blink: You're kidding, aren't you? UIVMM, Akmal's wicketkeeping was superb in Pakistan in 2005\06, and regressed dramatically in England in 2006. Obviously, it wouldn't count for much if that tour had been a one-off, but it wasn't - it was the start of a slippery-slope.

Any particular missed chances you think of during the 2005\06 tour? I seem to recall one missed stumping during the Bell-Pietersen stand at Faisalabad, but nothing else.
Only my opinion, obviously, but I commented at the time that Geraint had outkept him.

Aside from the Bell stumping, he shelled a regulation nick from Trescothick in the first test when Banger went onto something sizeable.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Geraint's 'keeping in that series was roundly excellent. But I must say I could have sworn that Trescothick innings was chanceless, and I'm usually pretty good on these things, especially where he's concerned. Will have to take a closer look there.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
TBH, I think Prior gets more stick regarding his wicketkeeping last summer than he should. He was awful at The Oval, but really, had he missed that Test with injury, he'd have generally been regarded to have had a pretty decent start to his Test career. In the other 6 Tests he missed the odd chance here and there, but no more than that.
His footwork is a big issue where I am concerned. He doesn't look like a keeper for a test XI where I am concerned. That is all I know. He has apparently improved in Sri Lanka but I will wait before I can see him again in English or more bouncier conditions to see if he has improved. He needs massive improvement really. Notice this. That is not what I call a keeper with excellent technique.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
His footwork is a big issue where I am concerned. He doesn't look like a keeper for a test XI where I am concerned. That is all I know. He has apparently improved in Sri Lanka but I will wait before I can see him again in English or more bouncier conditions to see if he has improved. He needs massive improvement really. Notice this. That is not what I call a keeper with excellent technique.
His footwork was poor and he didn't look the part in the early Tests of last summer, beyond doubt. That doesn't change the fact, though, that he actually missed relatively little until that fateful Oval game. I prefer to judge a wicketkeeper on deeds rather than looks.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
His footwork was poor and he didn't look the part in the early Tests of last summer, beyond doubt. That doesn't change the fact, though, that he actually missed relatively little until that fateful Oval game. I prefer to judge a wicketkeeper on deeds rather than looks.
He has been ordinary really. Here is what Derek Pringle had to say:

It was a bad miss and you did not need the stump microphones turned up to hear what Sidebottom thought about it as he let rip his frustration. Of course Prior dropped Wasim Jaffer off him at Lord's, on nought, so there was some previous to be taken into consideration.

Picking a batsman who wears wicket-keeping gloves rather than a specialist who might only get you fifty every 15 knocks, always comes with the risk of a missed chance. It is only in Tests as important as this, and on pitches as unyielding to bowlers, that the cost of that trade-off becomes apparent. Yet most teams do it, and not many sides have a 'keeper who bats below eight.

Prior's footwork is poor on either side and even ignoring the catches he has fluffed, he has conceded more than 100 byes this summer, an unacceptable amount even with an erratic bowling attack.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
He's been ordinary, beyond doubt. He's not Alec Stewart, or even close. I dispute nothing of what Derek says there, except possibly the bit about the byes. But I still feel Prior has been painted to have been awful, when in reality he hasn't been.
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
Geraint's 'keeping in that series was roundly excellent. But I must say I could have sworn that Trescothick innings was chanceless, and I'm usually pretty good on these things, especially where he's concerned. Will have to take a closer look there.
Tresco was dropped when on about 150 by Naved-ul-Hasan, not to mention got lucky on a plumb leg before prior to scoring in excess of 100. I did miss the first part of his inning so not sure if Akmal dropped him early on.

Anyway, Akmal actually started out as a mediocre keeper IIRC, and really bloomed during the England series throughout the first half of 2006. I didn't watch him in Sri Lanka so can't comment but it was actually in England where he really lost it and started dropping everything. Got a bit better at home against WI where the bounce was a bit more predictable but never reached his potential as a keeper. He's starting to show promise again so let's hope he turns out to be more than just a ball stopper for us.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Geraint's 'keeping in that series was roundly excellent. But I must say I could have sworn that Trescothick innings was chanceless, and I'm usually pretty good on these things, especially where he's concerned. Will have to take a closer look there.
I think I've probably done Akmal a slight disservice by calling it "regulation", but it was in the 52nd over when Tres was on 94. The Guardian's ball-by-ball calls it "an extremely difficult chance", but glad I didn't imagine it:

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/englandinpakistan/story/0,,1641717,00.html
 

simmy

International Regular
Akmal is so bad at keeping its not even funny. I think Prior is "solid" in both departments.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Keeping its Prior.

Batting I'll take Akmal when he's at his best. Until Prior does anything similar to this I'll take Kamran as a batsman.

Yeah you can say its one knock only, but it was ridiculously brilliant, and he's hit more match winning knocks under pressure like this
 

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