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Indian coach - Gary Kirsten
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silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Head coaches are overrated - India seem to be getting along fine without one. Let's see what happens though.
Shaggy Alfresco
State Captain
BCCI announcing this before it's been fully completed? Haven't they learnt from the Ford debacle?
Has the generously proportioned lady sung yet?
If not, is it still a bird in the bush or veld or outfield?
Hope he lasts more than 2 years, or for the period
when we would really need the coaching in batting when
the present middle order starts to retire.
Also hope that it's been made clear that this position
is a little less than that of a pontificating warlord. Or even
below captain. Just one stripe above the bowling and fielding
coaches would be best.
If not, is it still a bird in the bush or veld or outfield?
Hope he lasts more than 2 years, or for the period
when we would really need the coaching in batting when
the present middle order starts to retire.
Also hope that it's been made clear that this position
is a little less than that of a pontificating warlord. Or even
below captain. Just one stripe above the bowling and fielding
coaches would be best.
biased indian
International Coach
it only the newspaper and newschannel thats flashing it...i thnk wht BCCi have said is they have shortlisted some 30 people and one among them will be the coach..i think we will have a coach before australian tour..
and we can have one more thing to blame the big defeat
Fusion
Global Moderator
I find it interesting that both the Pakistani and Indian boards have hired coaches that seem to compliment strengths they already possess. Pakistan is perceived as being stronger in bowling than batting, and yet PCB hired a former bowler as their coach. India's strength is perceived to be their batting. After hiring Chappell, they are again going with a former batsman as their head coach. I'm not so sure about this approach. I think unless you can hire a strong assistant coach to work on the other side, a team should look to improve its weakness and hire the coach most qualified in that department.
Fusion
Global Moderator
Haha, yeah good point.
India already have a bowling coach (Venkatesh Prasad) and fielding coach (Robin Singh) who have been on it since after the WC.
Also to note is that much of the batting strength is based on Tendulkar,Ganguly, Dravid (all 35 +/-) and Laxman (34). So there is a huge transition coming in the batting, eg Ganguly a year ago had said he had 18 months left in him. (Sehwag, 29, melted away so there is no test batsman outside of these with more than 20-25 tests. For ODI's Dhoni,Yuvi form a middle order, but top is wide open after the big3).
(Bowling: Kumble is 37 but most everyone else is 30 or under, with Zaheer & Harbhajan having 50+ tests each and a designated leggie succesor in Chawla being groomed for the international stage).
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
been saying it for years tbh.
Langeveldt
Soutie
Gazza is a sound oke, fine cricketer a great guy and a really sound oke..
I just hope he doesn't get wasted on the madness cricket can be in the subcontinent.. And we need him in PE anyway
I just hope he doesn't get wasted on the madness cricket can be in the subcontinent.. And we need him in PE anyway
Langeveldt
Soutie
He's been the Mercedes Warriors batting coach for a fair bit.. I think he could do a similarly good job as AAD did with England last summer..
I don't think that at that level the previous specialization does make a huge huge impact on the overall coaching ability . Bob Woolmer was a gem of a coach for the bowlers too and wasn't a great great batsman either .The only ridiculous flaw that I could find about Gary Kirsten's personal self was his ridiculous spendings on his spouse . Shows his ill organized and passive mentality. How come a person like him might bring some sting or fire power to the side . I don't know why BCCI neglected this important issue!!!!
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
lol, my cousin works in the media and he told me this yesterday and told me to keep this a secret....... so much for that!!!
Hope he does well although like Sanz, even I am not sure if whatever coaching background he has had is enough to judge his competency on.
Get the feeling that they wanted a John Wright type coach (at least in terms of approach) and have therefore settled for Kirsten.
Hope he does well although like Sanz, even I am not sure if whatever coaching background he has had is enough to judge his competency on.
Get the feeling that they wanted a John Wright type coach (at least in terms of approach) and have therefore settled for Kirsten.
pasag
RTDAS
You know, I really want to give him a chance, but with basically no coaching experience what's he supposed to do? They've had months and endless resources to find a decent coach and this is all they have to show for it? Very poor form imo and if I was an Indian fan I'd be pretty unhappy.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I am too... And that is why I think it is probably his perceived "soft" image that has got him this job more than anything else...
Would love to be proved wrong, though... Reports seem to indicate that this is one choice they have made without any consultation from the senior players, unlike the past instances when the names were recommended by the senior players themselves... Dravid with Wright and Ford, Ganguly with Greg Chappell.....
Kirsten was apparently sought after and sounded out by Ravi Shastri and Sunny Gavaskar.. But I don't think with these involved, the senior players, esp. Sachin, would have been out of the loop all that much... We will see how this works out, gonna be interesting, if nothing else....