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    Who would win...

    Semi serious question.

    Who would win in a Test series between a team made up of 3x Kallis and 8 local average club cricketers versus New Zealand?
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    So a team of 3 players vs one of 8?

    The 8, surely.

    How bad would it be to have 1 fielder? Not to mention Kallis is hardly a crash-hot wicketkeeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    So a team of 3 players vs one of 8?

    The 8, surely.

    How bad would it be to have 1 fielder? Not to mention Kallis is hardly a crash-hot wicketkeeper.
    ? Did you read the post?

    I thought it seemed obvious what I meant. Will make a small edit to make it a tiny bit clearer

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    You ****-stirrer Goughy


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    ? Did you read the post?

    I thought it seemed obvious what I meant. Will make a small edit to make it a tiny bit clearer
    Haha. Was probably obvious to most, not so to me.

    Hmm, that's one hell of a tough question TBH. I'd go for the 3xKallis+8-club-players. Club cricket in New Zealand, they say, is of a pretty damn good standard, just sadly rare.

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    Cnsidering Kallis can bowl OK, I'd go with the Kallis Invitational XI.

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    Kallis, Martin's the only New Zealander who is comparably a better bowler than Jacques.

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    Oh yeah, good point...

    This is the New Zealand side playing in the Test being played at the time of this post, rather than one containing their three best seamers Franklin, Bond and Oram, yes?

    If it's a NZ side at what I'd call full-strength, would go for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Oh yeah, good point...

    This is the New Zealand side playing in the Test being played at the time of this post, rather than one containing their three best seamers Franklin, Bond and Oram, yes?

    If it's a NZ side at what I'd call full-strength, would go for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Oh yeah, good point...

    This is the New Zealand side playing in the Test being played at the time of this post, rather than one containing their three best seamers Franklin, Bond and Oram, yes?

    If it's a NZ side at what I'd call full-strength, would go for that.
    Don't know about that, Oram has bowled pies for the past eighteen months. Kallis always guarantees you a wicket regardless of the surface, extremely canny bowler whilst Jacob has become pretty one note.

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    Haha, I know this is in jest, but I'll try:

    Kallis averages 64 with the bat against New Zealand. So three of them would score 192 by themselves, plus you want to give the other eight a combined score of 160. Assume 25 extras in addition, especially as we'll pick mostly frontline club batsmen for this purpose (so seven of them should average something like 20) and just one-two bowlers. So that comes out to be 377 runs.

    However, with the ball, Kallis isn't too hot vs. New Zealand. He averages 38, so you'd think they'd score 380 if only the three of them bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Boy View Post
    Don't know about that, Oram has bowled pies for the past eighteen months. Kallis always guarantees you a wicket regardless of the surface, extremely canny bowler whilst Jacob has become pretty one note.
    Kallis > Oram as a Test bowler on a non-seaming surface, but to say Oram's "bowled pies" is quite untrue. He's rarely offered any great threat, no, but in only one Test in his career where he's bowled many overs that he's gone for more than 2.7-an-over or so.

    Oram isn't the most incisive bowler ever, but he's exceptionally rarely a pie-chucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Kallis > Oram as a Test bowler on a non-seaming surface, but to say Oram's "bowled pies" is quite untrue. He's rarely offered any great threat, no, but in only one Test in his career where he's bowled many overs that he's gone for more than 2.7-an-over or so.

    Oram isn't the most incisive bowler ever, but he's exceptionally rarely a pie-chucker.
    He bowled quite superbly in the warm-up games

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