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View Poll Results: Who was the greatest-ever left-arm finger-spinner
Ted Peate 2 3.51%
Bobby Peel 0 0%
Wilfred Rhodes 11 19.30%
Hedley Verity 12 21.05%
Johnny Wardle 0 0%
Tony Lock 1 1.75%
Derek Underwood 13 22.81%
Bishen Bedi 5 8.77%
Phil Tufnell 1 1.75%
Daniel Vettori 10 17.54%
Monty Panesar 2 3.51%
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The greatest-ever left-arm finger-spinner

This was, fifty years ago, one of the most forcibly-hammered debates in the cricketing world, but, after Yorkshire stopped mass-producing the subject-matter, it faded conspicuously into the background. In true CricketWeb style, however, let's have ourselves a go at reviving it.
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Rhodes.

Great list apart from the last 3 though - anyone who's not from the subcontinent and didn't play in the uncovered-wickets era can't have any real case TBH. Iqbal Qasim > Tufnell, MSP and Vettori IMO.

The 4 consecutive Yorkshire boys all basically have a case for being as good as one another though really.

EDIT: Wardle, fingerspinner? Thought he bowled both styles.
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I'd go Rhodes, Underwood, Verity, in roughly that order.
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This is just amazing.


And I'll never know how Knott managed to catch the ball.
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I'd go Rhodes, Underwood, Verity, in roughly that order.
Underwood above Verity?
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No way was Underwood better than any of Peate, Peel, Rhodes and Verity. He wasn't from Yorkshire!
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This is just amazing.


And I'll never know how Knott managed to catch the ball.
Look how slowly it comes off the wicket.

It is astonishing though. Be fascinated to know which game that was. I'm presuming it's 1974\75, because all the stuff from 1970\71 I've seen has been in B&W.

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I'd be willing to bet no one playing now could make that catch more than 1/4 times.
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Yes, no one else I'd rather have on playing on those pitches.
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I'd be willing to bet no one playing now could make that catch more than 1/4 times.
I'd not be surprised if no-one other than Knott could have made it very often. Including superior wicketkeepers to he.
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This is just amazing.


And I'll never know how Knott managed to catch the ball.
Wow. One of our spinners bowled one like that at Honiton in the Devon League this year.

Needless to say, two byes.
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I bowled one in 2004, and I'm not even a spinner.

Needless to say, I worried about what was in the pitch.

(It hit the stumps though)
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Underwood was quality. I never hold too much weight to the comments of individuals but this is what Greg Chappel had to say.

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Underwood has not been given the recognition he deserves.
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Debatable whether Underwood was a true LAO. Bowled more cutters than anything else.

Anyway, for me the genius of Verity to claim the above title.
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Damn, voted Underwood then saw Wilfred Rhodes. Mine lies with Rhodes.
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Rhodes.

Great list apart from the last 3 though - anyone who's not from the subcontinent and didn't play in the uncovered-wickets era can't have any real case TBH. Iqbal Qasim > Tufnell, MSP and Vettori IMO.
Fair enough (except in Vettori's case); I should've given this more consideration. I doubt, though, that it'll make any difference to the ultimate result.

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The 4 consecutive Yorkshire boys all basically have a case for being as good as one another though really.
Those who saw the first three reckoned that Peate was the best.

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Wardle, fingerspinner? Thought he bowled both styles.
He did indeed, but that hardly excludes him.
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