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  • Bermuda?

    5 5.88%
  • Canada?

    4 4.71%
  • Denmark?

    3 3.53%
  • Ireland?

    29 34.12%
  • Kenya?

    14 16.47%
  • Namibia?

    1 1.18%
  • Netherlands?

    8 9.41%
  • Oman?

    1 1.18%
  • Scotland?

    8 9.41%
  • UAE?

    1 1.18%
  • USA?

    7 8.24%
  • Other? (Pls Specify)

    4 4.71%
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    Why do the minnows have to play young teams? They should play their best teams and put in place a decent domestic structure whereby the experience gained from internationals is passed on through the best players competing in those competitions. Increasingly the top minnows are now playing more A team and U19 tours which is where the younger players should be gaining their experience, not in the national teams at the expense of better older players.

    At international level, I believe a country should always field its best possible team regardless o the sport and competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemosit View Post
    Why do the minnows have to play young teams? They should play their best teams and put in place a decent domestic structure whereby the experience gained from internationals is passed on through the best players competing in those competitions. Increasingly the top minnows are now playing more A team and U19 tours which is where the younger players should be gaining their experience, not in the national teams at the expense of better older players.

    At international level, I believe a country should always field its best possible team regardless o the sport and competition.
    There's no sense in giving international experience to players who won't be around when meaningful internationals are played. Those are just token caps. The point of these games aren't merely to avoid defeat or avoid heavy defeats. It's meant to allow international footing for these teams, meaning the players.

    These teams should be looking to breed players of international standard, and no domestic structure can produce entirely prepared internationals. Experience is needed at the top level. I don't understand how sporting a team of 30pluses can help a minnow team develop.
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    And when, in ten years time the current crop of 'young players' who have had all the international experience have to move on to make ready for the next crop of green players and the countries are still not playing 'meaningful' internationals, due to the lack of space in the international calendar, disinterest from Test teams etc, what then? You are back to where you started.

    Most of the players currently playing in these games between the top Associates would consider themselves to be playing meaningful games. They may not be playing Test nations, but national pride is as much at stake as if they were.

    Indeed with promotion/relegation tied to the results of many of these iner-Associate games, they are potentially more important in the big scheme of things for these countries. Fielding a young team that gets beaten and missed out on promotion to the next tier up when they could field a more experienced team that could achieve that would actually set these countries back, not help them.

    Putting out second rate, but young sides is also not going to win fans to the game when they get belted on the field. Without growing their fan base, none of the current top Associates are going to take the next step up anyway. To do this, they need their national teams to be as successful as possible i.e they need their best XI to play for them.

    Associates are only going to get more matches against top teams if their performances warrant it. To do that, they need their best teams on the field, irrespective of age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemosit View Post
    And when, in ten years time the current crop of 'young players' who have had all the international experience have to move on to make ready for the next crop of green players and the countries are still not playing 'meaningful' internationals, due to the lack of space in the international calendar, disinterest from Test teams etc, what then? You are back to where you started.

    Most of the players currently playing in these games between the top Associates would consider themselves to be playing meaningful games. They may not be playing Test nations, but national pride is as much at stake as if they were.

    Indeed with promotion/relegation tied to the results of many of these iner-Associate games, they are potentially more important in the big scheme of things for these countries. Fielding a young team that gets beaten and missed out on promotion to the next tier up when they could field a more experienced team that could achieve that would actually set these countries back, not help them.

    Putting out second rate, but young sides is also not going to win fans to the game when they get belted on the field. Without growing their fan base, none of the current top Associates are going to take the next step up anyway. To do this, they need their national teams to be as successful as possible i.e they need their best XI to play for them.

    Associates are only going to get more matches against top teams if their performances warrant it. To do that, they need their best teams on the field, irrespective of age.
    Actually any team need’s both experienced & Young... A team can’t win only with the tired old or young with no strategy.... So it should be the combination of seniors & young blood... Seniors should take the responsibility till the younger players settle in the national squad...

    1) The more important factor then seniors & Young is Consistency… Starting from West Indies there are very few players who play very consistently… That’s wat worries the lower ranked teams more… As long as that improves these teams can never match any of the top teams…
    2) One more factor is players representing the country regularly in all the matches… I feel this is the most difficult thing happening with the non test teams especially Ireland, Scotland, Canada and Bermuda. The Boards of these countries should take necessary steps to hold their top players & play them in all matches…

    If all these are met, then they can slowly inject young talent in the team & even could start experimenting on players… Hope someone starts of with solving these imp issues…
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    Icon14 New Cricket Stadium, Lauder Hill, Florida, USA...

    Hi guys here are the pics of new Cricket stadium under construction in Florida, USA... Stadium should be ready by next month... Looks Kool is'nt it? Guys U too pls share any new Cricket developments U know as such in this thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by laksh_01 View Post
    Hi guys here are the pics of new Cricket stadium under construction in Florida, USA... Stadium should be ready by next month... Looks Kool is'nt it?
    Looks pretty nice for sure, certainly promising for cricket in the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laksh_01 View Post
    Hi guys here are the pics of new Cricket stadium under construction in Florida, USA... Stadium should be ready by next month... Looks Kool is'nt it?
    Not to shabby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laksh_01 View Post
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    Oman v Qatar at Hubara
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    Hey you have collected some cool datas man thats great. I cant even imagine these teams coming into international cricky......
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    Quote Originally Posted by anoop4real View Post
    Hey you have collected some cool datas man thats great. I cant even imagine these teams coming into international cricky......
    They are already members of ACC & ICC since long, but still to develop as a strong cricketing nations just like India in Football... They are developing though...
    Last edited by laksh_01; 23-10-2007 at 12:28 AM.

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    Icon3 Bermuda Tour of Kenya - Update


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    Uganda 253
    Bermuda 161-6. As expected bermuda in trouble...

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    Bermuda all out for 210
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    Uganda beat Bermuda by 43 runs !

    Uganda 253 (49.4 overs)
    Bermuda 210 (L Cann 73, R Trott 46)

    It will be nice to see Namibia and Uganda in the next world cup in places of Bermuda and Canada (although, I think Afghanistan has a distant chance to get ahead of Uganda by 2009).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efaz View Post
    Uganda beat Bermuda by 43 runs !

    Uganda 253 (49.4 overs)
    Bermuda 210 (L Cann 73, R Trott 46)

    It will be nice to see Namibia and Uganda in the next world cup in places of Bermuda and Canada (although, I think Afghanistan has a distant chance to get ahead of Uganda by 2009).
    Hope so... I think Canada should be a good team if they promote Cricket in the nation the rite way.... Anyways good to hear Uganda beatings Bermuda Now there are about 8-10 nations that could challenge each other after Test Nations... This World Cup Qualifiers in 2009 should be the most competition one then the previous... That's a good sign... Hope its shown live all over the world...
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    Quote Originally Posted by laksh_01 View Post
    Hi guys here are the pics of new Cricket stadium under construction in Florida, USA... Stadium should be ready by next month... Looks Kool is'nt it? Guys U too pls share any new Cricket developments U know as such in this thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk View Post
    What's the point of giving Bermuda games when they're going to field a team with an average age is about 30? These guys aren't going to be around if/when Bermuda get anywhere near international standard.

    Malachi Jones and Kyle Hodsoll are each 18 and the openers are 24, but everyone else is over 30 and there are five of them over 34. The ICC is just wasting money by investing in such teams.
    Bermuda are never going to be an international-standard team. Never. The population of the entire country is smaller than a Toronto suburb, and Canada can't even get anywhere near ODI status themselves.

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