USA Under-15s to Tour India

adharcric · 19-09-2007, 10:41 AM

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/usa/...ry/311665.html

Wow, that's impressive. Unfortunately, they'll probably get destroyed. I've played against a few of these guys and they were pretty good (one was 5" with gavaskar-esque technique, the other two were nothing special) but looking at the junior talent in India, I can't help but fear for them. Should be a great experience though.

Thoughts? Predictions? Apathy?

silentstriker · 19-09-2007, 11:04 AM

Go US.

I think they have a shot, to be honest. It's much easier to play with people at lower levels (see countries like Nepal) as everyone is on a more even footing. Yes, some people have had better coaching, but its mostly relatively raw talent so its much closer than a full blown tour would be.

adharcric · 19-09-2007, 11:10 AM

The US team is fine in terms of coaching as we have some excellent youth academies around here. Raw talent is where they will fall behind, IMO.

silentstriker · 19-09-2007, 11:15 AM

I would be surprised. If much smaller countries can produce talent at the lower levels that rival that of Test playing nations, there is nothing to stop the US kids. The very best of the best that usually go on to FC cricket haven't really developed fully yet (unless you're a prodigy ala Tendulkar), and so the guy who is going to bowl 90mph five years from now is only bowling 65 now, etc. While the guy who is going only be able to bowl 75mph is still bowling 65 now, eg less differentiation.

I'm not saying they'll win, but I think they'll give a good account of themselves.

adharcric · 19-09-2007, 11:49 AM

How can the 90 mph guy and the 75 mph both be bowling at the same pace right now?

You can't look at junior cricket in the US as a full-blown talent pool. Only a few kids play cricket, less than the amount in Nepal (because you have so many other sports to play). More than the Indian pace, I can imagine our boys having trouble against Indian batsmen and Indian spinners. These guys play street cricket every freaking day.

Richard · 19-09-2007, 12:22 PM

Were you two guys born in the US of A?

silentstriker · 19-09-2007, 12:41 PM

I wasn't. Not sure about adharcric. I'd support the US if the two played though.

adharcric · 19-09-2007, 12:51 PM

Yeah, me neither. As for who I'd support, I'm not sure - I'd love to see the US do well because it's a bunch of second generation ex-pats just like me, but I'd like to see India have superb junior prospects. The latter is a given, so I guess I would support the US just.

Richard · 19-09-2007, 12:57 PM

Interesting. Fairly sure "Turd" said he'd support India if it was them vs Canada, and IIRR he's Canadian-born.

nightprowler10 · 19-09-2007, 04:28 PM

USA! USA! USA!

By the way adharcic, you must've been pretty close to the batsman to know that he was 5".

Oh and yeah, I would USA if they played India as well.

shortpitched713 · 19-09-2007, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightprowler10

USA! USA! USA!

By the way adharcic, you must've been pretty close to the batsman to know that he was 5".

Oh and yeah, I would USA if they played India as well.

Excellent post. Sums up my feelings perfectly.

Richard · 19-09-2007, 06:18 PM

What about if they played Pakistan for you two?

shortpitched713 · 19-09-2007, 06:29 PM

I'd root for USA, mostly because because they likely wouldn't stand a chance.

adharcric · 19-09-2007, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightprowler10

By the way adharcic, you must've been pretty close to the batsman to know that he was 5".

Oh yeah.

TheGreatAusie · 20-09-2007, 07:33 AM

I played for my local town (in England) in the junior U15 squad... we had a game with a touring Mumbai U15's team... their age on average was around 12. We had some quite tall pacey bowlers and in comparison they were very short in stature. The bowl was swinging crazily and it was absolutely freezing that day. Bottom line, we got smashed... complete shock as we thought it would be an easy game when they were toddling off the coach walking into the pavilion. Amazing talent at domestic level... if that was anything to go by then good luck to USA against their international side!

19-09-2007, 10:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
adharcric International Coach Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 10,898	USA Under-15s to Tour India http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/usa/...ry/311665.html Wow, that's impressive. Unfortunately, they'll probably get destroyed. I've played against a few of these guys and they were pretty good (one was 5" with gavaskar-esque technique, the other two were nothing special) but looking at the junior talent in India, I can't help but fear for them. Should be a great experience though. Thoughts? Predictions? Apathy? Last edited by adharcric; 19-09-2007 at 10:43 AM.

19-09-2007, 12:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
adharcric International Coach Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 10,898	Yeah, me neither. As for who I'd support, I'm not sure - I'd love to see the US do well because it's a bunch of second generation ex-pats just like me, but I'd like to see India have superb junior prospects. The latter is a given, so I guess I would support the US just. Last edited by adharcric; 19-09-2007 at 12:55 PM.

19-09-2007, 04:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
nightprowler10 Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Madhouse on Madison Posts: 13,390	USA! USA! USA! By the way adharcic, you must've been pretty close to the batsman to know that he was 5". Oh and yeah, I would USA if they played India as well. __________________ Can't decide on a signature? Why not Zoidberg? (\/) (;,,;) (\/) RIP Craigos

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19-09-2007, 11:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
adharcric International Coach Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 10,898	The US team is fine in terms of coaching as we have some excellent youth academies around here. Raw talent is where they will fall behind, IMO.

19-09-2007, 11:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
silentstriker The Wheel is Forever Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 36,550	I would be surprised. If much smaller countries can produce talent at the lower levels that rival that of Test playing nations, there is nothing to stop the US kids. The very best of the best that usually go on to FC cricket haven't really developed fully yet (unless you're a prodigy ala Tendulkar), and so the guy who is going to bowl 90mph five years from now is only bowling 65 now, etc. While the guy who is going only be able to bowl 75mph is still bowling 65 now, eg less differentiation. I'm not saying they'll win, but I think they'll give a good account of themselves.

19-09-2007, 11:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
adharcric International Coach Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 10,898	How can the 90 mph guy and the 75 mph both be bowling at the same pace right now? You can't look at junior cricket in the US as a full-blown talent pool. Only a few kids play cricket, less than the amount in Nepal (because you have so many other sports to play). More than the Indian pace, I can imagine our boys having trouble against Indian batsmen and Indian spinners. These guys play street cricket every freaking day.

19-09-2007, 12:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
silentstriker The Wheel is Forever Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 36,550	I wasn't. Not sure about adharcric. I'd support the US if the two played though.

19-09-2007, 12:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	Interesting. Fairly sure "Turd" said he'd support India if it was them vs Canada, and IIRR he's Canadian-born.

19-09-2007, 06:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	What about if they played Pakistan for you two?

19-09-2007, 06:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
shortpitched713 International Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: USA Posts: 3,219	I'd root for USA, mostly because because they likely wouldn't stand a chance.

20-09-2007, 07:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
TheGreatAusie School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oz/India Posts: 98	I played for my local town (in England) in the junior U15 squad... we had a game with a touring Mumbai U15's team... their age on average was around 12. We had some quite tall pacey bowlers and in comparison they were very short in stature. The bowl was swinging crazily and it was absolutely freezing that day. Bottom line, we got smashed... complete shock as we thought it would be an easy game when they were toddling off the coach walking into the pavilion. Amazing talent at domestic level... if that was anything to go by then good luck to USA against their international side!

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