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    England test squad to tour Sri Lanka

    Just wondering, which players forum members would like to see in the England test squad for Sri Lanka ?

    Of particular interest to me is who England will choose as their 2nd spin bowler......

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    Meh, Swan's never going to be an international player but Rashid is miles of right now aswell so i guess it might aswell be Swan

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    Yeah I'd go with Swann, pretty good batsman as well.
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    No other real contenders apart from Rashid and Swann tbh.

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    Tbh in previous seasons Swan has been probably about as useful a batsman as he was a spinner, something must have clicked this year with his bowling because he's taking a hell of a lot more wickets than he has before.

    Rashid is worrying me atm, every time i look at the scorecard he's got runs but crap bowling figures. Really hope he isn't going to go the same way as Schofield.

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    If it's a 16 man squad...

    Michael Vaughan (c)
    Andrew Strauss
    Kevin Pietersen
    Alastair Cook
    Ian Bell
    Owais Shah
    Paul Collingwood
    Andrew Flintoff
    Chris Read
    Matt Prior
    Graeme Swann
    Monty Panesar
    Matthew Hoggard
    James Anderson
    Steve Harmison/Chris Tremlett
    Ryan Sidebottom

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    Rashid dosent appear to be anywhere near ready, but I get this sinking feeling they have him penciled in which would be very detrimental to his development.
    I saw Swann bowl a couple of years ago and he looked like your stock-standard FC finger spinner, no better than Keedy, Blackwell, Daniel Cullen, Johan Botha, and the 50 others playing around the world... Hopefully he's improved a little but I dont see him having much impact were he to get a test.

    I really dont see the point in picking another finger-spinner who you know will play a support role to Monty for 15 overs max a day in Sri Lanka, and likely not be seen again for a couple of years.
    Really how big is the gap in ability between these guys and Pieterson/Vaughan ?

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    I worry about pickiong Rashid, but when Swann is the alternative, you know there is problem. Will Rashid be any worse than Batty or Udal? If only Ashley Giles was fit....
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    Rashid has been bowling quite poorly towards the end of the english season.

    I think taking him so quickly would be a bad decision.
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    Keedy. For sure. And before someone (most likely Richard ) prances in here and tells me he's a "middling county bowler", take a look at his stats in the last 3 seasons. They make Monty look ordinary. How someone like Swann or Dalrymple could be ahead of him in the pecking order as a bowler is beyond me, unless they want the guy to bat #7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    How someone like Swann or Dalrymple could be ahead of him in the pecking order as a bowler is beyond me, unless they want the guy to bat #7.

    Well whoever they pick is probably only going to play a little in this series, play a support role and look average doing it and then not be seen again until the next subcontinent tour, so might aswell be someone who can hold a bat.

    But I agree on Dalrymple ....bowling....in tests....no way.

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    Some stats I posted in another thread on the 13th. 10 days out of date now, but meh.

    Monty Panesar
    2007: 49 wickets @ 27.53
    2006: 78 wickets @ 28.57
    2005: 51 wickets @ 22.47

    Gary Keedy
    2007: 20 wickets @ 23.95
    2006: 61 wickets @ 27.21
    2005: 33 wickets @ 22.81

    Adil Rashid
    2007: 38 wickets @ 38.26
    2006: 25 wickets @ 25.16

    Gareth Batty
    2007: 32 wickets @ 33.43
    2006: 43 wickets @ 33.46
    2005: 33 wickets @ 37.50

    Graeme Swann
    2007: 39 wickets @ 31.51
    2006: 28 wickets @ 44.53
    2005: 33 wickets @ 39.60

    Shaun Udal
    2007: 9 wickets @ 33.55
    2006: 15 wickets @ 43.06
    2005: 44 wickets @ 18.90

    Robert Croft
    2007: 29 wickets @ 41.86
    2006: 66 wickets @ 32.00
    2005: 43 wickets @ 49.62

    James Tredwell
    2007: 21 wickets @ 36.80
    2006: 26 wickets @ 35.65
    2005: 3 wickets @ 48.66

    Ian Salisbury
    2007: 9 wickets @ 70.44
    2006: 62 wickets @ 27.93
    2005: 7 wickets @ 51.28

    Ian Blackwell
    2007: 21 wickets @ 30.23
    2006: 3 wickets @ 46.43
    2005: 28 wickets @ 56.03

    Richard Dawson
    2007: 5 wickets @ 33.60
    2006: 8 wickets @ 87.62
    2005: 27 wickets @ 40.66

    Alex Loudon
    2007: 8 wickets @ 76.12
    2006: 32 wickets @ 34.28
    2005: 37 wickets @ 36.64

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    Hmm, Rashid has been taking wickets though, shame that they're at such a high average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamdavid View Post
    Well whoever they pick is probably only going to play a little in this series, play a support role and look average doing it and then not be seen again until the next subcontinent tour, so might aswell be someone who can hold a bat.

    But I agree on Dalrymple ....bowling....in tests....no way.
    What if Panesar gets injured though? If you're picking a guy to bat #8, balance the side out and play alongside Panesar as a bowling allrounder, then I think you'll still need another spinner to be in the squad for depth in case Panesar gets injured, or your poor-man's Giles turns out to be completely dire.

    I can see someone of Keedy's recent record being much more difficult to handle in the subcontinent than Ryan Sidebottom, and if the selectors opt for Flintoff at 6 again which I think they will, two spinners would be the way to go in most games IMO. If neither of them can bat, it poses a problem - especially if you're going to have Flintoff and Prior at 6 and 7 and Hoggard somewhere in the tail as well - but again I don't see how Keedy's batting is that much different to Sidebottom's...

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