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    Must be a fair bit younger than you then...

    Read Wisdens and other stuff like that around the 1995-1996-1997 sort of time. McGrath was hoped - with some justification - to be one hell of a player. As is Rashid.

    However, the fact that part of Rashid's game is wristspin means he'll probably have even bigger hopes pinned on him.

    And it's equally possible that we're going to be disappointed. Me, I'd be ecstatic if Rashid did prove to be a deal, obviously, but I'm not going to hold-out my hopes until we get some real sensational evidence to suggest he's more than a middling wristspinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCC_legend View Post
    Adil Rashid looks to be englands next Star spinner, but i don't really know what to think of him. He does have a very good temperment and does have good control but i don't think he's as good as people put him down to be. Probably just another Chris Schofield type player, fast-tracked into the team but doesn't perform with the ball as hoped then dropped after 1/2/3 test matches and resigned to county cricket for the rest of his career.
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    Rashid looks like he could be a decent option for the future. Hes got a high action , turns the ball quite a bit from what I can remember. And hes got a wrong-un aswell. Hes got all of the delieveries to become a very good player , hes just got to be nutured , and not be rushed. Very Important.

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    I hope yes...... 60 years is a long time to go without a decent leg spinner.
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    Reckon you'll make it to your mid-80s, then, hbh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Reckon you'll make it to your mid-80s, then, hbh?
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    I hope most of us regulars might still be TBH, but there really is no seeing that far ahead TBH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    I hope most of us regulars might still be TBH, but there really is no seeing that far ahead TBH.
    nah, was just light hearted..... We all know that the only thing that is certain in this world is its uncertainty......

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    i voted "no" on the basis that we have been playing Test cricket for 130 years without producing one, why start now? Even "tich" Freeman who no one could deny was great in CC did not play a lot of Tests. Rashid is the main hope. in the Roses match he went at 4 an over but got good players out - Hodge, Sanath (who he might meet next winter - when Sky are talking up Graham Swann for a SL tour you know you've got spinning problems) and Stewart Law who he got out stumped when Lancs were chasing a bonus point that Yorks got instead) but I still think it would be premature to take him to SL - but who else have we got? Btw, do any Yorkshire fans know what happened to his leg-spinning partner from last year Mark Lawson, who sems to have gone off the radar? It would take so much prssure off Rashid if there was another young leg spinner about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poker Boy View Post
    i voted "no" on the basis that we have been playing Test cricket for 130 years without producing one, why start now?
    Get the feeling a certain Robert Cribb might have summat to say about that.

    TBH, he's not wrong. Just because we never have before doesn't in itself mean we won't do in future (possibly immediate future). However, many of the reasons contributing to why we haven't down the decades are very much still in place now and it does seem Rashid, while better than most English wristspin bets for at least 20 years (Salisbury was nowhere near as hopeless as some make-out), is nowhere near as good (yet at least) as some seem to be making-out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    I hope yes...... 60 years is a long time to go without a decent leg spinner.
    England haven't had a decent leg spinner in the last 60 years Jesus Christ

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    Nah, England have never had a particularly good one TBH. Douglas Wright was the only genuine wristspinner who even approached decent (and with his action, he was certainly flawed in many ways). All others were part-timers and not very good. (Or just not good full-stop, such as Salisbury in Tests, and Robin Hobbs).

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    Heard of salisbury, or whatever but who did the other one play for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron-Moss View Post
    Heard of salisbury, or whatever but who did the other one play for?
    Kent, mostly, just before and after WW2.

    Tommy Greenhough of Lancashire had a good start to his Test career; on the face of it he should have had more chances. He could have been playing right throught the 60s.

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