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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    Hi all, I am new to this forum.

    For the last five years I have been working on my own ratings system, constrantly chaning the formula, for test and ODI players. I have finaly settled on a formula. I thought I would firstly display my top 100 test batsmen with you, too see what you think. When I have time, I will explain the formula. Until then, see what you think:

    TOP 100 TEST BATSMEN
    1 Bradman 1447
    2 Hobbs 944
    3 Ponting 902
    4 Tendulkar 874
    5 ......


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    97 Nurse 589
    98 Faulkner 588
    99 J.H. Edrich 587
    100 Mead 586
    101 Zaheer Abbas 586
    Its amazing how one continues to learn something everyday.

    My cricket lesson of the day......Dennis Amiss and Slater (amongst hordes of others including one from Najafgarh) are better batsmen than WG Grace (PBUH)


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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    Its amazing how one continues to learn something everyday.

    My cricket lesson of the day......Dennis Amiss and Slater (amongst hordes of others including one from Najafgarh) are better batsmen than WG Grace (PBUH)
    No need for that, imo. Clearly Grace will fall short of his legendary status if measured by purely statistical methods, which is what Grace's rankings are based on.
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    Well, Grace averaged 32 in test cricket so....

    I am going to post an updated list at the end of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortpitched713 View Post
    No need for that, imo. Clearly Grace will fall short of his legendary status if measured by purely statistical methods, which is what Grace's rankings are based on.
    You really think so ?

    Would you like to do a statistical analysis that proves this which cant be torn to shreds ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    You really think so ?

    Would you like to do a statistical analysis that proves this which cant be torn to shreds ?
    First of all, likely DOG's analysis only took into consideration Test matches, and Grace was past his best when his Test career began. Thus any analysis of only his Test stats would underrate him.

    Finally, I am much too tired to do anything of the sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    Its amazing how one continues to learn something everyday.

    My cricket lesson of the day......Dennis Amiss and Slater (amongst hordes of others including one from Najafgarh) are better batsmen than WG Grace (PBUH)
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortpitched713 View Post
    First of all, likely DOG's analysis only took into consideration Test matches, and Grace was past his best when his Test career began. Thus any analysis of only his Test stats would underrate him.

    Finally, I am much too tired to do anything of the sort.
    Good. Thats all right.

    In India we have had a player called Col Ck Nayudu. He was 37 when India played their first test match and played 7 tests in all averaged 25.0 with the bat. and yet anyone who knows anything about cricket will rate him amongst the greatest batsmen India has ever produced. I saw him when he was 60, batting in the nets with his necktie tucked into the waistcoat of his three piece suit and hammering Indi'as fastest bowler of the times in his finest formal clothes. I understood why it wasn't important to look at his stats to understand that I was privileged to be in the presence of a master.

    Those who do not know cricket beyond cold stats do not know cricket at all.

    Yet you can see stats a bit more carefully and some of the mastery will come through.

    If you werent so tired and knew how and where to look you could find that in the stats of both Grace and the Colonel. If you cant, I feel for you.

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    Wisden Cricketer of the year and they also report him as still playing competitively when he was 68

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    What was his first-class average then?

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    CK Nayudu: India's first cricket legend
    CK Nayudu was a cricketing hero much before the Merchants, Hazares and Gavaskars appeared on the scene. He was the most popular cricketer in the pre-independence era.

    India's first cricket captain against England, Nayudu was famous as CK. He amassed 12,000 runs and secured 400 wickets in his first class cricket career. CK was more known for his attacking style of batting that drew crowds.

    He was the first national cricket icon in India and had a penchant for hitting sixes. Nayudu unfortunately was 37 when India played its first cricket series.

    In the first tour of India to England, Nayudu shared limelight along with Mushtaq Ali and Merchant. He hit a record 32 sixes in the tour and captivated the spectators.

    It was just behind Lord Constantine's 37 sixes that were hit in 1928.
    Nayudu hit six centuries in the series and secured 79 wickets as well. Once he hit 153 over 187 balls in just over a 100 minutes against a visiting MCC team. He loved to loft the ball..

    Though he did not do much in the tests, Nayudu was a sight to watch in the other matches in the tour. He was a regal and thrilling player.

    Born in 1896 in Nagpur, Cottari Kankaiya Nayudu played first class cricket for 47 years. He died in Nagpur at the age of 68.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    What was his first-class average then?
    Not much worse than Sachin's would have been if he was playing in those times and played till he was 68 !!

    To talk figures.

    It is important when discussing cricketers like Grace and Naydu not to forget the context. Both in terms of time/era in which they were playing as well as how they kept playing well beyond their use-by-date.

    Here are Nayudu's figures in each decade of his nearly half a century long career.

    AGE...Avg
    20-30 : 48.4
    30-40 : 40.0
    40-50 : 31.8
    50-60 : 29.5
    60 + : 39.0

    This is a career that started in 1916.

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