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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    if Michael Hussey was to retire now and never play another Test match again then he would be regarded as, statistically, the second best batsman to ever play at the highest level. Now all of us (maybe not Crampton ) know that this is simply not true, there are possibly a hundred finer batsman to have graced the Test arena than Hussey, but the stats are telling us that he is the second best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Crampton loves Hussey, does he not?
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    Has barely posted of late (GCSEs) so am not sure, TBH.

    Only Englishman I think anyone could accuse of loving him would be PF - although even there having him in his avatar was merely a result of a WC avatar challenge.

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    I think it's quite possibly a little heavily biased towards the modern day - there's a lot of average modern day players around and in heady positions, whereas there are guys who batting line-ups have revolved around in the past ranked down the list.

    Would be interesting if you factored in some of Goughy's standardised batting averages to the generational divide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Has barely posted of late (GCSEs) so am not sure, TBH.
    Have just received confirmation via MSN that Alex does indeed love Michael. If in further doubt, see this post.

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    Haha. Strange indeed that I've never noticed before, TBH.

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    Fair effort by Days of Grace - top username too. Seems maybe a bit biased towards the modern day players - maybe someway of factoring in years played as well as, or in lieu of, just total aggregate runs might be the go to weed out one or two season wonders?

    The other issue is that while I think you're quite right to boost players pre 1914, there are several other adjustments that could be made in the other direction, probably for the 1930s (roughly) and the last 7 years - slight downgrades to reflect that they were generally batter-friendly conditions more often than not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    Hi all, I am new to this forum.

    For the last five years I have been working on my own ratings system, constrantly chaning the formula, for test and ODI players. I have finaly settled on a formula. I thought I would firstly display my top 100 test batsmen with you, too see what you think. When I have time, I will explain the formula. Until then, see what you think:

    TOP 100 TEST BATSMEN
    1 Bradman 1447
    2 Hobbs 944
    3 Ponting 902
    4 Tendulkar 874
    5 Hammond 873
    6 Headley 863
    7 Hutton 859
    8 Sobers 845
    9 Lara 835
    10 Sutcliffe 834
    11 Gavaskar 832
    12 Dravid 828
    13 Pollock 824
    14 Mohammad Yousuf 823
    15 Barrington 818
    16 Kallis 807
    17 Weekes 802
    18 Hayden 793
    19 Chappell 787
    20 Walcott 786
    21 S. Waugh 774
    22 Compton 772
    23 Nourse 767
    24 Richards 764
    25 Inzamam-Ul-Haq 762
    26 Javed Miandad 761
    27 Border 754
    28 Hussey 751
    29 Jackson 740
    30 Boycott 720
    31 Harvey 717
    32 Mitchell 699
    33 Walters 691
    34 Hassett 679
    35 Gilchrist 671
    36 Langer 670
    37 Kirsten 666
    38 Jayawardene 666
    39 Sangakkara 666
    40 Azharuddin 666
    41 Flower 665
    42 Lloyd 664
    43 Barlow 662
    44 Cowdrey 659
    45 Mccartney 654
    46 Kanhai 653
    47 Gooch 651
    48 Pietersen 650
    49 Lawry 649
    50 Paynter 648
    51 M.E. Waugh 647
    52 Chanderpaul 645
    53 Younis Khan 644
    54 H.W. Taylor 643
    55 Gower 639
    56 Saeed Anwar 639
    57 Taylor 638
    58 Crowe 637
    59 Boon 637
    60 Worrell 636
    61 Sehwag 635
    62 Morris 634
    63 Greenidge 633
    64 May 629
    65 De Silva 628
    66 Richardson 625
    67 Martyn 625
    68 Thorpe 623
    69 Bardsley 620
    70 Brown 619
    71 Hill 617
    72 Smith 614
    73 Trescothick 614
    74 Hardstaff 614
    75 Dexter 612
    76 Woodfull 608
    77 Hazare 607
    78 Simpson 606
    79 D.M. Jones 605
    80 Trumper 603
    81 I.M. Chappell 602
    82 Haynes 601
    83 Cullinan 601
    84 Vaughan 600
    85 Ponsford 599
    86 Saleem Malik 598
    87 Ranjitsinhji 598
    88 Viswanath 596
    89 Slater 595
    90 Amiss 593
    91 Hendren 593
    92 Vengsarkar 593
    93 Leyland 592
    94 Kallicharran 591
    95 Hanif Mohammad 591
    96 Gibbs 590
    97 Nurse 589
    98 Faulkner 588
    99 J.H. Edrich 587
    100 Mead 586
    101 Zaheer Abbas 586
    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    My Formula for test batsmen:


    POINTS ALLOCATED: BATSMEN

    Average: x7.5

    Runs:
    8000+: 70
    5000-7999: 45
    3000-4999: 25
    2000-2999: 17
    1000-1999: 10
    500-999: 5

    Centuries: x4
    Consistency in reaching fifty (%): x4
    Centuries per match (%) (CPM): x350

    Less than 25 matches: -5% of rating*
    Less than 20 matches: -20% of rating
    Less than 15 matches: -35% of rating
    Less than 10 matches: -50% of rating
    Less than 5 matches: -75% of rating
    * players after 1970 get 5% taken off their rating if they
    played between 20 and 30 matches.

    Played entire career before 1914: +20% of rating
    Less than 20 matches: -5% of rating
    Less than 10 matches: -20% of rating

    Played part of career before 1914: +10% of rating

    Career interrupted by WWI/WWII: +10% of rating

    South African players: Career ended by isolation

    Played first-class cricket for 5 or more years
    after isolation: +10% of rating
    Played first-class cricket for less than 5 more
    years after isolation: +5% of rating


    Batting example: Sir Clyde Walcott
    Average: 56.68 x7.5 = 425.10
    Runs: 3798 = 25
    Centuries: 15 x4 = 60
    Consistency in reaching fifty (%): 39.19 x4 = 157
    Centuries per match: 0.34 x350 = 119.32
    Final Rating: 786

    Very admirable effort. Well done.
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    my list, in order, of players I have watched,

    Lara
    Tendulkar
    Ponting
    Dravid
    Waugh Sr.
    Inzamam
    Gilchrist
    Kallis
    Anwar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Has barely posted of late (GCSEs) so am not sure, TBH.

    Only Englishman I think anyone could accuse of loving him would be PF - although even there having him in his avatar was merely a result of a WC avatar challenge.
    Yeah Hussey is a gun. One of my favourite players to watch, along with Mohammed Yousuf and Kevin Pietersen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    Yeah Hussey is a gun. One of my favourite players to watch, along with Mohammed Yousuf and Kevin Pietersen.
    BUT would any of these three batsmen make a "top 10" of all time batsmen? I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Has barely posted of late (GCSEs) so am not sure, TBH.

    Only Englishman I think anyone could accuse of loving him would be PF - although even there having him in his avatar was merely a result of a WC avatar challenge.
    Yes, t'is true. Not quite as bad as Smith and Watson yet though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    Fair effort by Days of Grace - top username too. Seems maybe a bit biased towards the modern day players - maybe someway of factoring in years played as well as, or in lieu of, just total aggregate runs might be the go to weed out one or two season wonders?

    The other issue is that while I think you're quite right to boost players pre 1914, there are several other adjustments that could be made in the other direction, probably for the 1930s (roughly) and the last 7 years - slight downgrades to reflect that they were generally batter-friendly conditions more often than not?

    Always good to get a new member who can come up with interesting things to discuss, in any case, so welcome to CW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBMAC View Post
    BUT would any of these three batsmen make a "top 10" of all time batsmen? I don't think so.
    I don't think that PF was saying they would, merely stating that those are three of his favourite batsman to watch.

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    That's a great effort mate. Looks very very good. Though I do agree with the others who say that its a tad bit modern-centric. Would love to see improvements when you do get a chance.
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