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My Top 100 Test Batsmen of all-time

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Well you quoted it yourself in this thread... :unsure:

Easiest way, as Martyn (GIMH) said IIRR a day or so ago, is to go to the post where you quoted me, click the edit button, highlight and copy the entire quote (from "[QUOTE]" to "[/QUOTE]") then go back, go to "edit sig" and paste it in in place of what you just put there.

Then come back and check it.
 

atisha_ro

U19 12th Man
come on now... top 100? statistic formula? cricket is a game people, a damn game where you don't actually know anything for sure - who would have predicted Bradman bowled out at the 2nd ball in his last Test?
i choose to stay focused on the sporting and human side of the game and not mess too much with stats, because sports are a human phenomenon and fortunately any fantasy league, based on statistical guides, gets weird at times.
unless you would like to see a cricket match played by stats-programmed robots.
 

Hoole Seal

Cricket Spectator
come on now... top 100? statistic formula? cricket is a game people, a damn game where you don't actually know anything for sure - who would have predicted Bradman bowled out at the 2nd ball in his last Test?
i choose to stay focused on the sporting and human side of the game and not mess too much with stats, because sports are a human phenomenon and fortunately any fantasy league, based on statistical guides, gets weird at times.
unless you would like to see a cricket match played by stats-programmed robots.
Good point.

An interesting question, and gauge of ability and character, would be who would you consider the most reliable batsman for your country to come in and make a score when the chip's are down.

In recent time's for England it would have to be Graham Thorpe. Before that, going back a few decade's, maybe Ken Barrington.
 

JBMAC

State Captain
Interesting Post and an interesting formula...Unless I need my glasses cleaning though a couple of names notably missing.Syd Gregory,Stan McCabe maybe even Charlie Bannerman
 

pasag

RTDAS
come on now... top 100? statistic formula? cricket is a game people, a damn game where you don't actually know anything for sure - who would have predicted Bradman bowled out at the 2nd ball in his last Test?
i choose to stay focused on the sporting and human side of the game and not mess too much with stats, because sports are a human phenomenon and fortunately any fantasy league, based on statistical guides, gets weird at times.
unless you would like to see a cricket match played by stats-programmed robots.
Nice post.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
come on now... top 100? statistic formula? cricket is a game people, a damn game where you don't actually know anything for sure - who would have predicted Bradman bowled out at the 2nd ball in his last Test?
i choose to stay focused on the sporting and human side of the game and not mess too much with stats, because sports are a human phenomenon and fortunately any fantasy league, based on statistical guides, gets weird at times.
unless you would like to see a cricket match played by stats-programmed robots.
I love stats almost as much as the game itself TBH. Whether you like it or not statistics are a very important part of the game of cricket, they can determine whether somebody is playing "well" or not and at the end of the day can almost tell us singlehandedly if a players career was a success. Obviously things such as the contest between two sides, how good a shot was, how well bowled a delivery was cannot be determined by numbers and fancy statistics and that is the beauty of cricket, a beauty which is backed up by the vital necessity of stats IMO.

Of course there are some instances were statistics do not tell the full story. For example, if Michael Hussey was to retire now and never play another Test match again then he would be regarded as, statistically, the second best batsman to ever play at the highest level. Now all of us (maybe not Crampton :p) know that this is simply not true, there are possibly a hundred finer batsman to have graced the Test arena than Hussey, but the stats are telling us that he is the second best.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
if Michael Hussey was to retire now and never play another Test match again then he would be regarded as, statistically, the second best batsman to ever play at the highest level. Now all of us (maybe not Crampton :p) know that this is simply not true, there are possibly a hundred finer batsman to have graced the Test arena than Hussey, but the stats are telling us that he is the second best.
:huh:
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Has barely posted of late (GCSEs) so am not sure, TBH.

Only Englishman I think anyone could accuse of loving him would be PF - although even there having him in his avatar was merely a result of a WC avatar challenge. :p
 

Neil Pickup

Cricket Web Moderator
I think it's quite possibly a little heavily biased towards the modern day - there's a lot of average modern day players around and in heady positions, whereas there are guys who batting line-ups have revolved around in the past ranked down the list.

Would be interesting if you factored in some of Goughy's standardised batting averages to the generational divide.
 

Matt79

Global Moderator
Fair effort by Days of Grace - top username too. Seems maybe a bit biased towards the modern day players - maybe someway of factoring in years played as well as, or in lieu of, just total aggregate runs might be the go to weed out one or two season wonders?

The other issue is that while I think you're quite right to boost players pre 1914, there are several other adjustments that could be made in the other direction, probably for the 1930s (roughly) and the last 7 years - slight downgrades to reflect that they were generally batter-friendly conditions more often than not?

Always good to get a new member who can come up with interesting things to discuss, in any case, so welcome to CW! :thumbsup:
 

cover drive man

International Captain
Hi all, I am new to this forum.

For the last five years I have been working on my own ratings system, constrantly chaning the formula, for test and ODI players. I have finaly settled on a formula. I thought I would firstly display my top 100 test batsmen with you, too see what you think. When I have time, I will explain the formula. Until then, see what you think:

TOP 100 TEST BATSMEN
1 Bradman 1447
2 Hobbs 944
3 Ponting 902
4 Tendulkar 874
5 Hammond 873
6 Headley 863
7 Hutton 859
8 Sobers 845
9 Lara 835
10 Sutcliffe 834
11 Gavaskar 832
12 Dravid 828
13 Pollock 824
14 Mohammad Yousuf 823
15 Barrington 818
16 Kallis 807
17 Weekes 802
18 Hayden 793
19 Chappell 787
20 Walcott 786
21 S. Waugh 774
22 Compton 772
23 Nourse 767
24 Richards 764
25 Inzamam-Ul-Haq 762
26 Javed Miandad 761
27 Border 754
28 Hussey 751
29 Jackson 740
30 Boycott 720
31 Harvey 717
32 Mitchell 699
33 Walters 691
34 Hassett 679
35 Gilchrist 671
36 Langer 670
37 Kirsten 666
38 Jayawardene 666
39 Sangakkara 666
40 Azharuddin 666
41 Flower 665
42 Lloyd 664
43 Barlow 662
44 Cowdrey 659
45 Mccartney 654
46 Kanhai 653
47 Gooch 651
48 Pietersen 650
49 Lawry 649
50 Paynter 648
51 M.E. Waugh 647
52 Chanderpaul 645
53 Younis Khan 644
54 H.W. Taylor 643
55 Gower 639
56 Saeed Anwar 639
57 Taylor 638
58 Crowe 637
59 Boon 637
60 Worrell 636
61 Sehwag 635
62 Morris 634
63 Greenidge 633
64 May 629
65 De Silva 628
66 Richardson 625
67 Martyn 625
68 Thorpe 623
69 Bardsley 620
70 Brown 619
71 Hill 617
72 Smith 614
73 Trescothick 614
74 Hardstaff 614
75 Dexter 612
76 Woodfull 608
77 Hazare 607
78 Simpson 606
79 D.M. Jones 605
80 Trumper 603
81 I.M. Chappell 602
82 Haynes 601
83 Cullinan 601
84 Vaughan 600
85 Ponsford 599
86 Saleem Malik 598
87 Ranjitsinhji 598
88 Viswanath 596
89 Slater 595
90 Amiss 593
91 Hendren 593
92 Vengsarkar 593
93 Leyland 592
94 Kallicharran 591
95 Hanif Mohammad 591
96 Gibbs 590
97 Nurse 589
98 Faulkner 588
99 J.H. Edrich 587
100 Mead 586
101 Zaheer Abbas 586
My Formula for test batsmen:


POINTS ALLOCATED: BATSMEN

Average: x7.5

Runs:
8000+: 70
5000-7999: 45
3000-4999: 25
2000-2999: 17
1000-1999: 10
500-999: 5

Centuries: x4
Consistency in reaching fifty (%): x4
Centuries per match (%) (CPM): x350

Less than 25 matches: -5% of rating*
Less than 20 matches: -20% of rating
Less than 15 matches: -35% of rating
Less than 10 matches: -50% of rating
Less than 5 matches: -75% of rating
* players after 1970 get 5% taken off their rating if they
played between 20 and 30 matches.

Played entire career before 1914: +20% of rating
Less than 20 matches: -5% of rating
Less than 10 matches: -20% of rating

Played part of career before 1914: +10% of rating

Career interrupted by WWI/WWII: +10% of rating

South African players: Career ended by isolation

Played first-class cricket for 5 or more years
after isolation: +10% of rating
Played first-class cricket for less than 5 more
years after isolation: +5% of rating


Batting example: Sir Clyde Walcott
Average: 56.68 x7.5 = 425.10
Runs: 3798 = 25
Centuries: 15 x4 = 60
Consistency in reaching fifty (%): 39.19 x4 = 157
Centuries per match: 0.34 x350 = 119.32
Final Rating: 786

Very admirable effort. Well done.
 

Beleg

International Regular
my list, in order, of players I have watched,

Lara
Tendulkar
Ponting
Dravid
Waugh Sr.
Inzamam
Gilchrist
Kallis
Anwar
Hayden
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
Has barely posted of late (GCSEs) so am not sure, TBH.

Only Englishman I think anyone could accuse of loving him would be PF - although even there having him in his avatar was merely a result of a WC avatar challenge. :p
Yeah Hussey is a gun. One of my favourite players to watch, along with Mohammed Yousuf and Kevin Pietersen.
 

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