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    Is the "Decision" of players too fake

    So, we have Vaughan conveniently announcing his resignation as ODI Captain...then we have Pietersen announcing that he's not yet ready to Captain England and excusing himself so that Collingwood can be appointed.....

    Has England established a "Saving Face" mentality.....i.e. no matter what, let it look like it's the players decision.....after the selectors have made thier call
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    Yeah, fair call. KP was probably told earlier in the week that he wasn’t going to get the gig and likewise Vaughan jumped before he was pushed.

    TBH everything the England team says (minus Vaughan’s Fred comments) is voided of any personality and follows a similar rhetoric.

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    I heard that England have been secretly employing Alastair Campbell who has been teaching them how to speak for 30 minutes without actually saying anything.

    All of the England team are sooooo asinine. Yawn.

    Where have all the cricketing personalities gone?

    I can only think of Sreesanth and possibly Gayle who are vaguely interesting people in the current crop. Its a yawn-fest at the moment.

    EDIT: Possibly Symo and Watson, despite 90% of what they speak being bull****, at least they are being interesting when they say it.
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    Doesn't really bother me, TBH. It's not much different said or unsaid. I certainly don't really think saving face makes someone devoid of character.
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    There are a few personalities left: Darren Gough, Andre Nel, Warnie to name but three.

    But it tends to be the older players who don't care what the selectors think.

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    I think it is pretty fair that Michael Vaughan retired as ODI captain, he hasn't had much success and was moving on for the good of the team. Pietersen's comment sounded rather unlike his usual personality, and I was surprised to hear that he was effectively ruling himself out of the hunt for the captaincy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie tragic View Post
    So, we have Vaughan conveniently announcing his resignation as ODI Captain...then we have Pietersen announcing that he's not yet ready to Captain England and excusing himself so that Collingwood can be appointed.....

    Has England established a "Saving Face" mentality.....i.e. no matter what, let it look like it's the players decision.....after the selectors have made thier call
    In other words, it is doing too good a job of quelling the public's desire for blood-letting, and seeing people disappointed at failing to get the captaincy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    In other words, it is doing too good a job of quelling the public's desire for blood-letting, and seeing people disappointed at failing to get the captaincy?
    Haha awesome call, agree fully.
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    Hmmm. Last autumn Strauss did a series of interviews the day before the Ashes squad was announced, saying that he really wanted the captaincy. He'd actually been told the day before that Flintoff had the gig.
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    I think whatever ECB is doing is just to avoid friction among the English team and they are just avoiding a situation where the media can tarnish the image of the team [even more] after the recent Vaughan-Flintoff saga. Atleast ECB doesn't work like the BCCI .

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    In other words, it is doing too good a job of quelling the public's desire for blood-letting, and seeing people disappointed at failing to get the captaincy?
    Awesome call, as Gelman said. Afridi contender IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Awesome call, as Gelman said. Afridi contender IMO.
    Speaking of awards. Has anyone got any Skull nominations for this week?

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    If they do, they should be sent to cwawards@cricketmail.net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    If they do, they should be sent to cwawards@cricketmail.net.
    Am I supposed to be able to see these?

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    Sorry mate, have you still not got the details? Have you got a reply from Sean yet? If not, mail me at RJED2@AOL. com.

    You're not supposed to genuinely nominate for Awards in the public eye 'cos it spoils the surprise.

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