Future England Prospects?

[Richard]

I really think Steven Davies of Worcestershire (no bias!) will be a future long term England Keeper.

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/45/45352/f_Batting_by_Season.html

Not had a fantastic start to the season, but unlike many players mentioned he does play on a bit of a dodgy wicket alot of the time.

Nah, obviously not (no sarcasm). People from all over the country have been saying that for a good year or so now.

Mind, if Prior turns-out to be The Real Deal (which I'm certainly still not certain of) it'll be a while yet.

 

[TT Boy]

Middlesex’s Nick Compton. Easy on the eye, fairly solid and Peter Moores is a big fan. Better bet as a future England test international then Mark Pettini, Varun Chopra and James Hildreth.

Joe Denly at Kent seems to be a real talent as well.

 

[PhoenixFire]

I doubt very much that Pettini will ever make it into the test side, hope anyway.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Middlesex’s Nick Compton. Easy on the eye, fairly solid and Peter Moores is a big fan. Better bet as a future England test international then Mark Pettini, Varun Chopra and James Hildreth.

Joe Denly at Kent seems to be a real talent as well.

What with his family connections & him being a yarpie too I'm surprised he isn't in the team already!

 

[Perm]

Compton does have a fairly impressive record, has he been on any A tours or something similar?

 

[superkingdave]

went on tour this winter iirc

 

[Richard]

Funny thing is, Compton's been around ages now and only last season started to make any waves.

 

[Richard]

I doubt very much that Pettini will ever make it into the test side, hope anyway.

Umm, yeah!

How on Earth anyone has seriously suggested him as an England prospect is beyond me. Been playing for 4 seasons now and has rarely done much of note.

 

[gettingbetter]

What is with all the animosity against Ali? Surely, you guys can't say what you're saying about him (yeah, I know that its real early in all these playeres cricketing careers to make a sound judgement on their futures), but surely being captain of England U/19 has to mean something.

 

[gio]

I like what I've read about Tom Smith, and his economy rate is very encouraging. Why is it that he doesn't take more wickets? A lack of pace, movement, bounce?

Godleman has certainly started very well, and Harris, having just turned 17, has also made an exciting start. I hope Hildreth makes it. I've always been a fan of his, a very attacking batsman.

 

[Richard]

What is with all the animosity against Ali? Surely, you guys can't say what you're saying about him (yeah, I know that its real early in all these playeres cricketing careers to make a sound judgement on their futures), but surely being captain of England U/19 has to mean something.

Michael Gough was captain of England u19 in 1999.

You know where he is now, do you?

 

[Prince EWS]

What is with all the animosity against Ali? Surely, you guys can't say what you're saying about him (yeah, I know that its real early in all these playeres cricketing careers to make a sound judgement on their futures), but surely being captain of England U/19 has to mean something.

Under 19s cricket is nowhere close to being even first class standard though - so much can change that it's not worth seriously considering. Obviously it shows raw talent, however the application of such talent is often hard to master - a lot of Under 19 national cricketers don't even make it to first class level. It's also worth noting that Vikram Solanki played as a specialist bowler batting #9, Nathan Hauritz played as a specialist batsman batting #5-6 without bowling, and that Anthony McGrath was dominant at that level with the bat.

Captaincy means even less, too - it's feasible that the captain is an ordinary cricketer himself and simply has a good cricket brian or is a natural leader.

 

[Hoole Seal]

I like what I've read about Tom Smith, and his economy rate is very encouraging. Why is it that he doesn't take more wickets? A lack of pace, movement, bounce?

He's taken 8 wicket's this season at 37.12 in 5 games. Blame it on the weather. 5 draw's in 7. Gutted.

Interestingly, Newby's taken 10 wicket's at 20.6.

 

[gettingbetter]

No I haven't heard of Michael Gough or know where he is - I think in the initial post I stated that I'm an Australian who is interested in the emerging talents of England. I forgive you though. Nonehteless, an interesting read on Cricinfo about Gough.

I can understand U19 being nowhere near first class standards, but unless you Poms )can I say that on here?) are going to complain about the selection policy in for this team again...but U19 England, shouldn't that somewhat resemble the best 11 players in that category? (To some degree)

 

[Richard]

It should - and does. But as both myself and Rob (Prince EWS) have been at pains to point-out - me with a single example of Michael Gough and him with a run-through - the best players at 18-19 aren't going to be the best players even just 2 or 3 years later. Only half, if that, of players who've played for England u19s in my time following (since 1999) have gone on to have county careers of any length, and only a tiny fraction have played international cricket, never mind played with success.

 

[gettingbetter]

Fair point - I'll mention Godleman and Chopra and the fact that they were in the same team as Ali and you haven't given them the same treatment, surely its not Moeen's last name that renders you to giving him so much strife.

Is there any point in me mentioning the likes of Atherton, Vaughan, Tresco and Flintoff - all players you highly respect that have captained the under-19s?

 

[Richard]

Thing is, though, as I say - u19s are not something you can take especially seriously. Yes, it's better to play them than not to but what happens there I won't take enormously seriously. Hence, I'm not going to get especially excited about someone on the basis of u19 cricket.

Godleman and Chopra have already done something of note at the First-Class level.

 

[TT Boy]

Michael Gough was captain of England u19 in 1999.

You know where he is now, do you?

Working for his dad according to Cricinfo.

Off Topic- But I met Michael and his family a few years back, they were staying in my parent’s friend’s hotel. Really nice family.

 

[TT Boy]

Funny thing is, Compton's been around ages now and only last season started to make any waves.

Well it wasn’t until last year that he was given a settled role and position in Middlesex’s side. He was played out position in the middle order until Ben Hutton stood down.

 

[Richard]

Working for his dad according to Cricinfo.

Off Topic- But I met Michael and his family a few years back, they were staying in my parent’s friend’s hotel. Really nice family.

No surprises, TBH. Almost all the cricketers I've met and that people I know have met have tended to be pretty nice.