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It's Sir Beefy now

Spitfires_Fan

Spitfires_Fan

State Vice-Captain
Perm said:
Hussain is pretty good TBH.
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Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with Hussain - prefer him to most of the others really, but my elitist group would consider him a bit inferior I reckon.

I would have used Dermot Reeve if he still commentated - then nobody could have any complaints.
 
Perm

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Spitfires_Fan said:
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with Hussain - prefer him to most of the others really, but my elitist group would consider him a bit inferior I reckon.

I would have used Dermot Reeve if he still commentated - then nobody could have any complaints.
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Ah, I thought you meant that the others were too good from him in a commentary sense. My mistake.
 
sideshowtim

sideshowtim

Banned
That's what I think of your selection policy...Yes I've hit the odd copper, yes I've enjoyed the old dooby but will you piss off and leave me alone? I'm walking to John O'Groats for some spastics!
 
pasag

pasag

RTDAS
sideshowtim said:
That's what I think of your selection policy...Yes I've hit the odd copper, yes I've enjoyed the old dooby but will you piss off and leave me alone? I'm walking to John O'Groats for some spastics!
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Haha, well played. Had forgotten about that.

For Cameron (Warning: mild language etc)
 
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BhupinderSingh

BhupinderSingh

Banned
Ian Botham is one of the greatest allrounders ever (Imran,Botham,Miller,Sobers...... in this order for me) & yet some people are saying "I don't quite like him" sort of things.Of course he's been knighted for his social services but you gotta respect him as he's one of the greatest cricketers ever.
 
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Perm

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
BhupinderSingh said:
Ian Botham is one of the greatest allrounders ever (Imran,Botham,Miller,Sobers...... in this order for me) & yet some people are saying "I don't quite like him" sort of things.Ofcourse he's been nighted for his social services but you gotta respect him as he's one of the greatest cricketers ever.
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You don't have to respect him at all, I can see where people are coming from when they say that they don't really like the guy as a person. These same people probably respect Botham as a cricketer, but not as a peson and that is a big difference.
 
Perm

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Craig said:
How can you not respect somebody as a person when you don't even know them?
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People watch how Botham acted as a cricketer, what he is like as a commentator etc and make their minds up from that.
 
Craig

Craig

World Traveller
Perm said:
People watch how Botham acted as a cricketer, what he is like as a commentator etc and make their minds up from that.
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Yeah but you only know the public (Sir) Ian Botham yet in real life he is probably completely different.
 
Perm

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Craig said:
Yeah but you only know the public (Sir) Ian Botham yet in real life he is probably completely different.
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You are more than likely correct, but the only Botham that people know is the public one, therefore that is the only side of him they can dislike.
 
pasag

pasag

RTDAS
Craig said:
Yeah but you only know the public (Sir) Ian Botham yet in real life he is probably completely different.
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You only know the public Hitler and Bin Laden as well, if you get my drift. Obviously most people have never met these public figures, such as Botham or say Ponting but they are still entitled to like/dislike them based on their public image which is what happens and what people are saying here when they say they dislike Botham as a person. It's also implied that we don't know them in real life and they could be the exact opposite to their public image.

Edit: Haha Brumby, I should've quit after the first sentence and would've beaten you with the exact same point.
 
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BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Craig said:
You've been attending the C_C class of extreme examples?
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Yeah, two peas in a pod ol' C_C & me.

Nah, it's called reductio ad absurdum. You use a deliberately way out or absurd example to show an argument must be wrong if it leads to that conclusion.

Knew that Philosophy degree would come in handy one day. :p
 
pasag

pasag

RTDAS
Craig said:
You've been attending the C_C class of extreme examples?
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The point being though that we make judgements about public figures we've never met every day, it's hardly unusal. Paris Hilton is woeful, Bush is an idiot. Diana, Freddie Mercury were awesome, Graeme Smith is a... :p. It's given that we have never met them but we're still entitled to form opinions based on their actions, comments in the spotlight and other information made public regarding them.
 
Perm

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
pasag said:
The point being though that we make judgements about public figures we've never met every day, it's hardly unusal. Paris Hilton is woeful, Bush is an idiot. Diana, Freddie Mercury were awesome, Graeme Smith is a... :p. It's given that we have never met them but we're still entitled to form opinions based on their actions, comments in the spotlight and other information made public regarding them.
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Good to see there was no ill spoken of Mr Mercury.
 
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