Weakest Point of Pakistan?????

[mjramay]

What you guys think is the weakest point in Pakistani side.

1-Fielding
2-Opening
3-Captaincy
4-Discipline

 

[Richard]

I think weakness is their weakest point, TBH.

 

[sohummisra]

Well, Shoaib already said it's not discipline so we can cross that off. ;P

 

[andmark]

Bowling.

 

[allout]

They are not weak in any field but just need to improve thier mental toughness and physical fitness.

 

[Cameron-Moss]

Captaincy, I think its very bad using Inzy as the captain.

 

[Richard]

Well given that's a long gone stories no worries there, really.

 

[gunner]

none of the above,

well fielding abit but now the side is packed with good fielders bar razzaq and yousuf,
also wicketkeeping abit cosakmal cost us the series vs england and south africa with his drops and missed stumpings off kaneria

but number 1 has to be........wait for it........INJURIES!!!

i hate that word

 

[Perm]

Fielding quite easily IMO, they are an incredibly poor fielding outfield and that includes Kamran Akmal behind the stumps. I don't think they'll have too many problems with their openers in Test cricket (Butt and Malik would be my selections) but in ODI cricket they are just as likely to chuck Afridi or Akmal up the order than to select a proper specialist. Malik is going to be a good captain, so that area looks good. Discipline is pretty vague and relates back to the fielding side of it and how some players seem unwilling to give their best effort.

 

[deeps]

Quite obviously Opening batsman are their biggest weakness.

 

[Perm]

Quite obviously Opening batsman are their biggest weakness.

How so? They have some pretty good openers in the country although they seem hesitant to pick them. Why do you think that this aspect is Pakistan's biggest weakness?

 

[FRAZ]

haha !!!
I remember my weakness for sure that was the cheesy and self centered avatar of mine when I started ...
Anyways for me it gotta be discipline , jealousy towards the main strikers , illiterate captaincy ( pretty much solved now) and physical and mental fitness . Dietary habits of almost all the players bar Shoaib / Asif and Malik are pretty weired and as we have read about that marriage food thing then thats it !!!!

 

[FRAZ]

So we do have a comic font here !!!! Never noticed that btw !!!!!!

 

[Prince EWS]

How so? They have some pretty good openers in the country although they seem hesitant to pick them. Why do you think that this aspect is Pakistan's biggest weakness?

Because they chop and change their openers every series, show no faith in them and hence never establish a combination. This creates constant undue pressure on them and results in continued failures there. Take your selections for example - Butt and Malik. In the last test series they played, they used Hafeez and Farhat. Hafeez averaged nearly 50 before the South Africa series - dropping him now would be making the same mistake they've made so many times before.

And your talk of manufactured openers... well what is Malik then? He probably has it in him to become a good opener if he focuses on it, however with the added captaincy pressures and the fact that he still considers himself a genuine allrounder, doing so might not be the best idea.

Opening is a grave concern at the moment - whether it be talent, coaching, selection or whatever, it's a serious problem. Much more than their fielding which is meh to me.

 

[Perm]

Because they chop and change their openers every series, show no faith in them and hence never establish a combination. This creates constant undue pressure on them and results in continued failures there. Take your selections for example - Butt and Malik. In the last test series they played, they used Hafeez and Farhat. Hafeez averaged nearly 50 before the South Africa series - dropping him now would be making the same mistake they've made so many times before.

And your talk of manufactured openers... well what is Malik then? He probably has it in him to become a good opener if he focuses on it, however with the added captaincy pressures and the fact that he still considers himself a genuine allrounder, doing so might not be the best idea.

Opening is a grave concern at the moment - whether it be talent, coaching, selection or whatever, it's a serious problem. Much more than their fielding which is meh to me.

I confess I actually forgot about Mohammad Hafeez, mainly due to how dire he is in ODI cricket which Pakistan have been playing a bit of recently. In my ideal side I would have Butt and Hafeez opening with Malik coming in down the order a bit more. I can't help that the selectors chop and change, although I do suppose that this adds to the opening dilemna.

 

[tooextracool]

Pakistan has 2 problems.
1) Their selectors are as fickle-minded as their supporters. They constantly drop players based on one poor series, almost no one gets a consistent run in the side, and of the players who do get a consistent run in the side are the Samis, Afridis, razzaqs(tests), naved ul hasans when instead you would think the more efficient and devoted players like Asim Kamal, Mohammad Hafeez and Fazl-E-Akbar's of this world would be given the chance to play and develop.
2) They lack discipline, but that is obvious given Shoaib Akthar, the steroids, the ball tampering and god knows what not that has haunted Pakistan over the years. Then theres the classic indiscipline of players just playing like amateurs, like this game: http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Matches/MatchScorecard.asp?MatchCode=1846
when nearly all of their batsmen got caught playing the pull/hook shot.

 

[sohummisra]

As mentioned above, what happened to players of the calibre of Asim Kamal? I know India try hard to make debutants look good but Kamal actually looked like a pretty good prospect.

 

[FRAZ]

As mentioned above, what happened to players of the calibre of Asim Kamal? I know India try hard to make debutants look good but Kamal actually looked like a pretty good prospect.

No match fitness (As far as international standards are concerned) !!!

 

[deeps]

How so? They have some pretty good openers in the country although they seem hesitant to pick them. Why do you think that this aspect is Pakistan's biggest weakness?

Their middle order is pretty decent, their fast bowling is one of the best in the world. Spinner wise, in test cricket, i'm not convinced with Danish Kaneria, but he's ok. Not a weakness at least.

Fielding might not be brilliant, but isn't poor either.

However the lack of good openers means theres extra pressure on the middle order, which then puts pressure on the lower order, and the bowlers and it just gets worse and worse. A solid opening partnership does wonders for the remaining batsman. Pakistan these days are lucky to get an opening partnership of over 50 runs.

 

[Spitfires_Fan]

Pakistan has 2 problems.
1) Their selectors are as fickle-minded as their supporters. They constantly drop players based on one poor series, almost no one gets a consistent run in the side, and of the players who do get a consistent run in the side are the Samis, Afridis, razzaqs(tests), naved ul hasans when instead you would think the more efficient and devoted players like Asim Kamal, Mohammad Hafeez and Fazl-E-Akbar's of this world would be given the chance to play and develop.
2) They lack discipline, but that is obvious given Shoaib Akthar, the steroids, the ball tampering and god knows what not that has haunted Pakistan over the years. Then theres the classic indiscipline of players just playing like amateurs, like this game: http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Matches/MatchScorecard.asp?MatchCode=1846
when nearly all of their batsmen got caught playing the pull/hook shot.

Just incase anyone's interested, Fazl-E-Akbar plays for Chichester in the Sussex league and frequently tears it up, season after season.

Completely irrelevant tangent, but there we go.