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    Hypothetical Welsh team

    Without turning this into another debate over whether Ireland and Scotland should be separate teams again, or even entertaining the thought of Wales doing so in reality, I was just wondering which players in County Cricket would be eligible to play for Wales. Goughy mentioned it in another thread without going into detail, but how strong would this hypothetical (note this Richard!) Wales team be?

    Obviously a lot of the Glamorgan players are Welsh, and I'm also aware of Geraint Jones. Who else out there iin County Cricket would be eligible?
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    Simon Jones.
    Or something.

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    Given how rubbish Glamorgan are currently, not very.

    I don't think Geraint would qualify either, despite the Welsh parents. He did his residence in England.

    There haven't actually been all that many Welshmen playing for England, despite them having a first-class county. Only really Cyril Walters looks like he might have been of the first water too: Pat Pocock & Robert Croft were both steady-ish finger-spinners; Tony Lewis is better remembered for his broadcasting; Geoff Thomas, Hugh Morris & Steve Watkin were all tried and discarded fairly quickly; Austin Matthews & Johnnie Clay were one test wonders; Jones pere & fils have had injury truncated careers; Turnball & Parkhouse have mediocre records from few games and Allan Watkins has an acceptable average (40 from 15 games) without giving statisticians convulsions.

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    Alun Evans?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    Alun Evans?
    Not aware of his work, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    Alun Evans?


    Very droll, Fiery.... Very droll. Mind you, he did score a century for Northerns to win them the final this year. First time he'd done anything of value in his career.

    There's a few decent looking youngsters at Glamorgan this year - James Harris who took 12 wickets in a match a couple of weeks ago at the ripe old age of 16 and Huw Waters looks nippy.

    I guess David Hemp doesn't qualify as he was born and plays for Bermuda now? Matthew Maynard played for Glams, but he seemed pretty English to me. Adrian Dale was a useful player. Alex Wharf played a few games for England, but I think he was from Yorkshire and moved to Glams when he couldn't get a game.
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    Could pick anyone who had ever had the potential to be Welsh-qualified IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamee999 View Post
    Simon Jones.
    He plays for Glamorgan so I didn't feel the need to mention him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post


    Very droll, Fiery.... Very droll. Mind you, he did score a century for Northerns to win them the final this year. First time he'd done anything of value in his career.

    There's a few decent looking youngsters at Glamorgan this year - James Harris who took 12 wickets in a match a couple of weeks ago at the ripe old age of 16 and Huw Waters looks nippy.

    I guess David Hemp doesn't qualify as he was born and plays for Bermuda now? Matthew Maynard played for Glams, but he seemed pretty English to me. Adrian Dale was a useful player. Alex Wharf played a few games for England, but I think he was from Yorkshire and moved to Glams when he couldn't get a game.
    I don't know, that's why I added the question mark...but surely he's good enough to make a taffy team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    I don't know, that's why I added the question mark...but surely he's good enough to make a taffy team
    Oh. Sorry. I'd hope he isn't good enough actually. Didn't a Wales XI beat England in an ODI in about 1999/2000? Who was in that team??

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    Oh. Sorry. I'd hope he isn't good enough actually. Didn't a Wales XI beat England in an ODI in about 1999/2000? Who was in that team??
    Wasn't an ODI, but might've been List A:

    http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archiv.../74/74867.html

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    Wow. They SPANKED England, although they did have Taffy Kallis playing for them... Gives a whole new meaning to a Kolpak player I guess

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    That wasn't a serious game, it might as well have been Duke Of Norfolk's XI.

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    You can't seriously say that given the 'strength' of the English team put out. They would have been gutted to lose that one. On another question, why isn't there a little '5 nations' tournament in Europe - England A vs Wales, Scotland, Ireland and Holland. I'd watch it, if only to see Ryan ten Doeschate in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    You can't seriously say that given the 'strength' of the English team put out.
    It was just a warm-up, though, that's the point. The Welsh team wasn't a Welsh-qualified one, it was just a random team (with mostly Glamorgan players because Glamorgan weren't playing in that round of League games) under the auspicies of Wales.

    England put out a near first-choice team because they were having a warm-up for the NWS.

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