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    Andrew Flintoff's long term future?

    I do not know if this thread has been started yet. But after hearing that Freddie needs a 3rd ankle opetation I have serious reservations about his long term health, I think a few years of perfoming at a good standard has taken its toll , What say you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mermaidman View Post
    I do not know if this thread has been started yet. But after hearing that Freddie needs a 3rd ankle opetation I have serious reservations about his long term health, I think a few years of perfoming at a good standard has taken its toll , What say you?
    There's nothing seriously bad about Freddies long term health.
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    I've been very seriously wondering that for the last few weeks.

    It's been the best part of a year since he said he'd basically accepted that ankle trouble was going to be a part of life from now on.

    I'd say you could make a case for him having been less than ideal in terms of fitness throughout the winter, even allowing for the fact that cricket is rarely a game where you can be in perfect shape all the time.

    I'm definately worried about his medium-term future, very much so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cover drive man View Post
    There's nothing seriously bad about Freddies long term health.
    Haha, indeed. It's fitness, not health, this is causing problems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cover drive man View Post
    There's nothing seriously bad about Freddies long term health.
    Yeah, lol I meant fitness. You are probably right, I guess what I was trying to say is that he is getting more and more of these niggles he must just be unlucky with injuries at present.

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    Sorry CDM but Id have to disagree with you there.

    The way left his foot points to fine leg in delivery means that he will injure his ankle and any injuries will be repeated and will never truly heal.

    There is more details as to why here 1-800-CallGoughy The Technical Helpline for International Bowlers

    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    Andrew Flintoff

    For a longtime I have been bothered by Flintoff's action. He is a big strong boy and delivers the ball with a great deal of force.

    The issue Ive had for quite a while is where his front foot points. In delivery, his front foot plants towards fine leg.

    This causes a great deal of jarring and stress as it is pointing away from the direction the rest of his body is going in.

    It is no surprise, to someone like myself, that he is suffering from long term left ankle problems.

    The stresses on his ankle must be immense. The foot is planted and the rest of the body must come over and around that ankle.

    A recipe of injury.

    I would have made these observations a long time ago but there would have been many saying "Noone can criticise Freddie". The time is probably right for people to have an open mind and reflect clearly on matters.

    Edit- Best example I can find online showing his left foot pointing away from the direction of the rest of his body
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Haha, indeed. It's fitness, not health, this is causing problems.
    Thats what I meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    Sorry CDM but Id have to disagree with you there.

    The way left his foot points to fine leg in delivery means that he will injure his ankle and any injuries will be repeated and will never truly heal.

    There is more details as to why here 1-800-CallGoughy The Technical Helpline for International Bowlers
    I never noticed that to be honest. Quite intresting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    Sorry CDM but Id have to disagree with you there.

    The way left his foot points to fine leg in delivery means that he will injure his ankle and any injuries will be repeated and will never truly heal.

    There is more details as to why here 1-800-CallGoughy The Technical Helpline for International Bowlers
    I've thought something along those lines more than once. Not unusually, you've explained it better than I could.

    EDIT: haha, that thread was interesting!
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    I never noticed it either but it is an unnatural way to land on that left foot, bound to be trouble

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    I agree. One has to worry about Flintoff's long term future, especially as (like Giles' hip and S Jones' knee) it seems to be the same body part all the time. If he has to change his action to ease the strain on his ankle, can he? If so will it mean him bowling at a reduced pace? Or will he be unable to bowl at all - in which case its surely international career over as IMO he is not good enough to get into the team purely on his batting.
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    I wonder why he bowls like that surely it must hurt him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poker Boy View Post
    I agree. One has to worry about Flintoff's long term future, especially as (like Giles' hip and S Jones' knee) it seems to be the same body part all the time. If he has to change his action to ease the strain on his ankle, can he? If so will it mean him bowling at a reduced pace? Or will he be unable to bowl at all - in which case its surely international career over as IMO he is not good enough to get into the team purely on his batting.
    I cuncur his batting recently has been non-existant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cover drive man View Post
    I wonder why he bowls like that surely it must hurt him.
    Simple. There were times when it didn't hurt, and when you're blissfully unaware of the trouble an action is going to cause you in future, and it works for you, you've no reason to change. And once you've been doing something for a long time, it gets more and more difficult to alter it.

    Whether Flintoff can and will change (whether anyone's spotted that it might just help to do so...) and remain a good bowler is a question we'd probably only know by trying.

    Trouble is, if we tried and failed, it might well never be possible to get the old Flintoff back. Mind you, if that old Flintoff was just someone who'd play a few games then miss a few with injury, it's probably a worthwhile risk to take.

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    Andrew! Time to change! Superman, will be with us when he can!


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