The Ten Best Cricketers Of All Time

[Perm]

Wow, excellent thread Francis.

[archie mac]

Originally Posted by Fiery

Hadlee > Miller imo

Not in this life time

[Perm]

Originally Posted by Fiery

Hadlee > Miller imo

No way. Hadlee is a legend, but Miller is better.

[pasag]

Lol great stuff from Francis. Has incredible mood swings though, it must be said.

[_Ed_]

And still has me in his avatar. Mildly unnerving.

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by archie mac

Not in this life time

Originally Posted by Perm

No way. Hadlee is a legend, but Miller is better.

disagree

[pasag]

Originally Posted by _Ed_

And still has me in his avatar. Mildly unnerving.

Indeed.

[Prince EWS]

Originally Posted by Fiery

disagree

Obviously.

[archie mac]

Originally Posted by Fiery

disagree

If you have the chance (inclination) have a read of Roland Perry' bio of Miller may not change your mind but..

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by archie mac

If you have the chance (inclination) have a read of Roland Perry' bio of Miller may not change your mind but..

I know all about Keith Miller. He was the ultimate boy's annual hero but Hadlee was the greater cricketer

[Perm]

Originally Posted by Fiery

disagree

Why?

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Fiery

disagree

just reconfirming it

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Perm

Why?

R.J.Hadlee...let's start with his weaker suit...

Batting:

"As a batter he times the ball better than anyone in the New Zealand team". "If Paddles hadn't been a bowler, he could've been a hell of a batsman, easily good enough to hold his place in the New Zealand team. He batted very well for Nottinghamshire, averaged 38 in county games and playing a number of fine one-day knocks. He can play two games, particularly against the spinners - he has a better defensive technique against the mediums than the slows - but the main thing about his batting is that lovely swing of the bat and the clean strikes, especially down the ground. He's a superb striker of a cricket ball. All of us clip it well now and then but he smacks it very crisply most of the time. He's great to watch because you never know what'll happen next. Because he really goes for it, he gives it a good nudge or misses it; he's seldom out playing a half and half sort of shot. Sometimes watching him you're thinking "Oh Paddles, why did you flash at that one?" His 99 against England in 1984 was a great innings to watch - it also won the game for us".

Bowling:

* A natural, born to play cricket. Comes from great cricketing pedigree.
* Throughout his career responded to dramatic situations to win historic games and series for NZ on his own, e.g India '76, England '78, Australia '85/86 to name just a few.
* He timed the shortening of his run to perfection to maximise his effectiveness and career length despite opposition.
* He could bowl off-cutters, leg-cutters, in-swingers, out-swingers, yorkers and a viscious short ball as quick as anyone.
* His captains would throw him the ball and he would simply get wickets.
* He got wickets at the start of the innings, got vital breakthroughs and cleaned up the tail.
* Was solely responsible for NZ going from strugglers to world-beaters.
* He played the least number of tests of all the guys who have taken over 400 test wickets.
* Has the most 10 wicket bags and most 5 wicket bags in history for anyone with a ligitimate bowling action.
* Has the 5th best ever ODI economy rate.
* Underrated by overseas people because he comes from an unfashionable cricketing nation
* Has big feet (and you know what they say about big feet)


This pretty much proves it anyway

[Perm]

Yes, that's quite a good summary of Richard Hadlee. I don't see how stats prove it either, Miller has a higher batting average by almost 10 runs as well as the same bowling average.

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Perm

Yes, that's quite a good summary of Richard Hadlee. I don't see how stats prove it either, Miller has a higher batting average by almost 10 runs as well as the same bowling average.

Number of wickets divided by 3