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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    The question is the team of March 2006.
    Well, Butcher was injured for the majority of 2005 and early 2006. Why should they have picked Butcher ahead of Cook, on what basis ?

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    When is someone ready...?

    You will know only by playing them against world class opposition. This is one of the major issues I have with the doing away of the first class games in a touring teams calender. Young batsmen (and even some not so young) would get to play the tourists in a three or four day game and performing well in these games went a long way in preparing them as well as showing the selectors that they had arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz View Post
    The evolution of thread occured only in your brain as it always happens when you run of ideas to support your arguments.
    Hahaha, a bigger load of nonsense I've rarely heard. If I bring stuff up, it is relevant to what has been being discussed, end of story.
    I was still talking in the context of the thread title.
    In which case, you said something completely out of context. The comment you replied to was wrongly interpreted due to the wholly silly practice of taking everything on the context of the title of the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz View Post
    Well, Butcher was injured for the majority of 2005 and early 2006. Why should they have picked Butcher ahead of Cook, on what basis ?
    Clearly on the proviso "if fit". That, too, was mentioned earlier in the thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Clearly on the proviso "if fit". That, too, was mentioned earlier in the thread.
    Well in that case, Cook's selection was a right move because a. Tresco was unavailable, 2. Butcher was injured.

    So what are you trying to argue here ? Let me guess - Cooking up assumptions in your mind to prove that picking up cook was a wrong move solely because he was 19 year old and totally disregarding his maturity/performance as a player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    In which case, you said something completely out of context. The comment you replied to was wrongly interpreted due to the wholly silly practice of taking everything on the context of the title of the thread.
    It may sound silly to you, but most members on this forum try to follow the context of the thread topic while making their case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz View Post
    Well in that case, Cook's selection was a right move because a. Tresco was unavailable, 2. Butcher was injured.

    So what are you trying to argue here ? Let me guess - Cooking up assumptions in your mind to prove that picking up cook was a wrong move solely because he was 19 year old and totally disregarding his maturity/performance as a player.
    He was 20. And no - simply saying that had Butcher been available and selected for that tour he'd have been every bit as likely to do well as Cook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz View Post
    It may sound silly to you, but most members on this forum try to follow the context of the thread topic while making their case.
    Nonsense. Most members on this forum don't have a stupid obsession with keeping all comment related to the opening post. The only guidelines are to talk about cricket in Cricket Chat.

    Most people will reply to something if they see something they wish to reply to, and bring-up anything that is significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    He was 20. And no - simply saying that had Butcher been available and selected for that tour he'd have been every bit as likely to do well as Cook.
    Except that you didn't say that(one in Bold). You didn't even know that Butcher was not available until Marc pointed out. You were clearly arguing for Butcher's selection ahead of Cook. If he wasn't fit enough to get into the team, there is no point in making furthur assumption and questioning Cook's selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Nonsense. Most members on this forum don't have a stupid obsession with keeping all comment related to the opening post. The only guidelines are to talk about cricket in Cricket Chat.

    Most people will reply to something if they see something they wish to reply to, and bring-up anything that is significant.
    Why dont you start a POLL on this and ask the forum members themselves if they consider it stupid to stick to the thread topic ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz View Post
    Except that you didn't say that(one in Bold). You didn't even know that Butcher was not available until Marc pointed out. You were clearly arguing for Butcher's selection ahead of Cook. If he wasn't fit enough to get into the team, there is no point in making furthur assumption and questioning Cook's selection.
    I still don't know whether he was unavailable. Marc was not certain of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz View Post
    Why dont you start a POLL on this and ask the forum members themselves if they consider it stupid to stick to the thread topic ?
    Seeing as I'm pretty well certain of it, I'll let you do it if you really so desire. Try and stick to the right forum, though (ie, SD not this one).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Seeing as I'm pretty well certain of it, I'll let you do it if you really so desire. Try and stick to the right forum, though (ie, SD not this one).

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