Your country's all time ODI and test teams?

[JASON]

Originally Posted by aussie

Side looks a bit thin in both batting & bowling if we were to imagine it coming againts opposition all time attacks & batting line-ups. For me Wettimuny hasn't done near enough to upstage Atappatu for the opener spot, Jayawardene is a must & even if Sangakkara has to bat @ 7 Silva or even Kaluwitharana can't make it. I'd also be tempted to have Malinga in at this early stage since he is easily the second best seamer sri lanka has produced and one can easily see him having an excellent career.

I'd go:

Attapatu
Jayasuriya
De Silva
Dias
Jayawardene
Ranatunga
Sangakkara
R Ratnayake/S De Silva - depending on conditions
Vaas
Malinga
Murali

Your side looks good, But Wettimuy comes from a family in SL Cricket that contributed hugely to SL Cricket pre -Test era and was the equivalent of Ranatunga's post Test status.

Sidath Wettimuny and his brothers(Sunil and Mithra) were all openers with variable success at International Level. Sidath's contribution to SL Test perfomances in the early part of SL Cricket are by no means negligible... this was at a time when SL was trying to find its feet as a Test nation... It is in this context I would be tempted to slot in Sidath ahead of Marvan...because IMO , Sidath Wettimuny deserves a position for his contribution despite numbers which may favour Marvan..he played in a different era when SL was struggling...as a Test nation..

Malinga despite being a success at ODI level, IMO, still has a long way to go to being a Sri Lankan success story in the Test arena...and I hope he will fulfil the potential he has promised so far...

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Matt79

As for Ponting for Harvey, it remains to be seen whether Ponting will finish his career with as good an average as Harvey tbh... and Harvey played on uncovered pitches and matting pitches that were, in his words, sometimes not really up-to-scratch. Not saying you're wrong, but I'm going to wait until Ponting finishes before I decide whether he deserves to be ahead of Harvey

Ponting's average is already > 10 better than Harvey's and he's scored far more runs. Ponting would have to go into a serious slump spanning years for his average to become lower than Harvey's

[JASON]

Originally Posted by Fiery

Ponting's average is already > 10 better than Harvey's and he's scored far more runs. Ponting would have to go into a serious slump spanning years for his average to become lower than Harvey's

You are right Fiery ..

Jeez , these Aussies who select all time teams.... they want perfection of the utmost..

[pasag]

Agree with Matt re: Harvey from all that I've read and seen from footage etc. Although I certainly think Ponting will finish on top, but as I said I don't like ranking and comparing players I haven't seen much of. They're all guns fwiw.

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by pasag

Agree with Matt re: Harvey from all that I've read and seen from footage etc. Although I certainly think Ponting will finish on top.

Great player alright but Ponting greater already imo

[Perm]

Originally Posted by Fiery

Great player alright but Ponting greater already imo

DWTA. Neil Harvey is quite under-rated.

[The Big Cheese]

My New Zealand test team:
1. Turner
2. Wright
3. Jones
4. Crowe
5. Sutcliffe
6. Fleming (c)
7. Cairns
8. McCullum (wk)
9. Vettori
10. Hadlee
11. Bond
12th man: Richardson (very close call)
The four bowler look was mainly because i don't think another NZ bowler deserves to be in there.

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Perm

DWTA. Neil Harvey is quite under-rated.

DWTA? What does that mean?

[JASON]

Originally Posted by The Big Cheese

My New Zealand test team:
1. Turner
2. Wright
3. Jones
4. Crowe
5. Sutcliffe
6. Fleming (c)
7. Cairns
8. McCullum (wk)
9. Vettori
10. Hadlee
11. Bond
12th man: Richardson (very close call)
The four bowler look was mainly because i don't think another NZ bowler deserves to be in there.

No Astle ? What about Warren Lees or Ian Smith over McCullum ?

[JASON]

Originally Posted by Fiery

DWTA? What does that mean?

Disagree With That Assessment (I , suspect)

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by JASON

No Astle ? What about Warren Lees or Ian Smith over McCullum ?

McCullum = Smith, Smith/McCullum > Lees

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Perm

DWTA. Neil Harvey is quite under-rated.

I don't underated Harvey at all, just rate Ponting higher

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by JASON

Disagree With That Assessment (I , suspect)

"disagree with the above" probably. Thanks Jason

[JASON]

Originally Posted by Fiery

McCullum = Smith, Smith/McCullum > Lees

Fair enough , I would prefer Smith though..because he has a few valuable Test hundred's IIRC. Especially one against the Aussies or West Indies...Trying hard to remember..

But why no Astle..Surely he will have to be in the best NZ Test side...

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by JASON

Fair enough , I would prefer Smith though..because he has a few valuable Test hundred's IIRC. Especially one against the Aussies or West Indies...Trying hard to remember..

But why no Astle..Surely he will have to be in the best NZ Test side...

Smith scored 2 test hundreds. First one against Eng 1983 and this blinder against India in 1990. He played the cut shot to virtually every ball even if it pitched a metre outside leg stump but was very handy. McCullum is a better batsman and equally good with the gloves now imo.

Astle has a case to be in both sides but I would probably only have him in the OD side