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I have a gut feeling that McCullum will be our best keeper ever. He's been in the side a while and still has alot of years to come. I must admit I didn't think he was much when I first saw him but now I think he is as good as any.
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And although I don't subscribe to the Richard et al argument that achievements in this period mean little because of poor bowlers and benign pitches, in a direct comparison of this type Harvey deserves credit for playing in an era of uncovered and matting wickets against genuine greats like Alec Bedser, Fazal Mahmoud, Brian Statham, Fred Trueman, Wes Hall, Laker, Lock, etc etc etc. There's an account I remember of the Aussies playing Pakistan on a matting wicket that hadn't been properly tightened and fastened, so was coming loose. Unsurprisingly Mahmoud was lethal in these conditions with his accuracy, swing and ability to make the ball cut when it could find purchase. Harvey was the only Aussie in an otherwise pretty handy team to be able to deal with the conditions. Now, Ponting can only do what he can do, in terms of the opponents and conditions he has to compete in, and he's performed absolutely brilliantly but he's certainly had generally more benign conditions. If, as I predict, at the end of his career the difference in average is more like 4 or 5, rather than 10, then I think different factors like that become pretty relevant.
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Bedser and Mahmoud on uncovered or matting wickets are as lethal bowlers as there have ever been. Statham and Trueman are England's all time best fast bowling partnership by some distance.
I rate Ponting, currently, at #6 for Australian batsmen: Bradman, Chappell, Harvey, Border, S. Waugh, Ponting. That's still placing him ahead of many many greats. And he has the opportunity to raise himself higher in my eyes still in the years of his career that are left to him.
For the purpose of selecting the XI, besides the fact I think he's better overall anyway, the fact that Harvey is the only left hander in my top six makes a difference as well.
Honourable mentions to Lindwall, Border and Harvey.
Yeah, fair enough. Overall he'd be a great, but for much of Ponting's career, he's only been very very good.
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