The Guardian (UK) rates the world's best 11 to take on Australia

[Rik]

Originally posted by marc71178
I don't see why we have to base it solely on performances against OZ?

Bloody hell, because a paper picked a team of players which it thinks has done well against Australia, to beat Australia. So we are now doing the same? Comprende?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

But a good player is a good player. A good player is bound to pull through against even the best of opposition even if they haven't done it in the past. A good player is still able to perform against a good team.

Where would the series be played if were staged? 'Cause if its not in India, I disagree with Harbhajan inclusion in the squad at all.

 

[marc71178]

Bloody hell, because a paper picked a team of players which it thinks has done well against Australia, to beat Australia. So we are now doing the same? Comprende?

And where does it say that either in this thread or the article?

It doesn't.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Thread Title?

 

[marc71178]

The thread title suggests the best 11 to take on Australia, where does it specify it's based on performances against Australia?

 

[Neil Pickup]

I interpreted it in the way that you'd want players who have performed against the Aussies, and not been found out time and again (Trescothick).

 

[warrioryohannan]

Originally posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
But a good player is a good player. A good player is bound to pull through against even the best of opposition even if they haven't done it in the past. A good player is still able to perform against a good team.

That's incorrect.Warne is suppose to be the best leg spinner ever, but his record against India is pathetic!!
One has to look at one's opponents weak points and then select the players accordingly.I for one think that Aussies should stop playing Warne when they take on India next time around.And a team playing against Aus should be well adviced to have a good off spinner in their squad!

 

[aussie_beater]

Originally posted by marc71178
The thread title suggests the best 11 to take on Australia, where does it specify it's based on performances against Australia?

If someone is picking a team to beat the Aussies, then isn't it obvious that they would look at players who have performed admirably against them ? Let's get back to the discussion rather then wasting energy on unnecessary bickering.

[Edited on 7/12/2002 by aussie_beater]

 

[age_master]

lets than ;look at some of mcGraths most dismissed batsmen


Tendulkar - cant play him than
Lara - hes out too


thats rediculas, 2 of the best batsmen over tha last 10 years who have trouble against McGrath

so lets pick some crap players instead - yeah like thats gonna happen, as if they would not pick Tendulkar and Lara

 

[marc71178]

Originally posted by warrioryohannan

Originally posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
But a good player is a good player. A good player is bound to pull through against even the best of opposition even if they haven't done it in the past. A good player is still able to perform against a good team.

That's incorrect.Warne is suppose to be the best leg spinner ever, but his record against India is pathetic!!

He said "against the best of opposition"

 

[warrioryohannan]

Originally posted by marc71178

Originally posted by warrioryohannan

Originally posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
But a good player is a good player. A good player is bound to pull through against even the best of opposition even if they haven't done it in the past. A good player is still able to perform against a good team.

That's incorrect.Warne is suppose to be the best leg spinner ever, but his record against India is pathetic!!

He said "against the best of opposition"

What a asinine remark.India is the best opposition when it comes to playing against a leg spin bowler.Pity that you can't even get the point!



[Edited on 8/12/2002 by warrioryohannan]

 

[warrioryohannan]

Originally posted by age_master
lets than ;look at some of mcGraths most dismissed batsmen


Tendulkar - cant play him than
Lara - hes out too


thats rediculas, 2 of the best batsmen over tha last 10 years who have trouble against McGrath

so lets pick some crap players instead - yeah like thats gonna happen, as if they would not pick Tendulkar and Lara

One has to look at the overall record of players against Australia rather than against a specific player.
Lets have a look at Above mentioned players record

Tendulkar ave against Aus:54.06 with 6 tons!! Playing in Aus, it is 46.16 with 3 tons!

Lara's ave: 48.42 with 6 tons!!
Playing in Aus:40.11 with 3 tons!!


Seems to me a very impressive record!

 

[vandemataram]

Originally posted by warrioryohannan

He said "against the best of opposition" [/quote]

What a asinine remark.India is the best opposition when it comes to playing against a leg spin bowler.Pity that you can't even get the point!



[Edited on 8/12/2002 by warrioryohannan] [/quote]


He probably thinks that a leggie's real test is when he plays against teams like SA (with Cullinan) and the mighty English team

 

[Rik]

Originally posted by Neil Pickup
Thread Title?

 

[marc71178]

Doesn't mention anything about being based on performances against Aus though

 

[Rik]

We thought the "the world's best 11 to take on Australia" bit would give you the idea

 

[marc71178]

No, that suggests the best 11 players to play against Australia - doesn't specify anything about their performance, just suggests it's a Rest of the World XI.

 

[Rik]

Originally posted by marc71178
No, that suggests the best 11 players to play against Australia - doesn't specify anything about their performance, just suggests it's a Rest of the World XI.

Stop complaining and make a list...or don't...just stop complaining. There's no point.

 

[Bazza]

He's an argumentative sod ain't he?!

 

[Rik]

Originally posted by Bazzaroodoo
He's an argumentative sod ain't he?!

He's like a dog...of no percived gender or colour...which won't stop