Drop Vaughan, keep Strauss

[Ash_A55]

Need I say more?

 

[Barney Rubble]

Yes, TBH. Strauss is just as useless in ODIs as Vaughan, doesn't bowl and can't captain in ODIs. If you're gonna drop one of them, drop him.

 

[Ash_A55]

Strauss has ODI hundreds, Vaughan dosent even have an 80.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Strauss has ODI hundreds, Vaughan dosent even have an 80.

He does have an 80, he actually has a couple of 90s.

Also, all of Strauss' ODI hundreds bar one have come against minnows, and the one that didn't came against a horribly weak WI side.

You've got to look beyond statistics. Strauss is a minnow-basher, which has been concealing his lack of ODI know-how for years now.

 

[jammay123]

i doesnt matter any more their both out. we might aswell play with 9 men

 

[Ash_A55]

He does have an 80, he actually has a couple of 90s.

Also, all of Strauss' ODI hundreds bar one have come against minnows, and the one that didn't came against a horribly weak WI side.

You've got to look beyond statistics. Strauss is a minnow-basher, which has been concealing his lack of ODI know-how for years now.

No he dosent, the pundits were furious his top score is 80*

 

[Barney Rubble]

No he dosent, the pundits were furious his top score is 80*

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/player/22182.html

Top score is 90*.

 

[Ash_A55]

Fine 90* thats still shocking for his reputation

 

[Barney Rubble]

Fine 90* thats still shocking for his reputation

Yes, but that doesn't make Strauss any less shocking, just because he happens to have made runs against rubbish attacks. Vaughan's 90* actually came against Australia IIRC, so if he'd got those extra ten runs this thread might not have existed.

 

[Richard]

Seriously, he who still holds-out any hope for either in ODIs is delusional. The two of them were dismissed today by Shaun Tait - a new low.

 

[Swervy]

Seriously, he who still holds-out any hope for either in ODIs is delusional. The two of them were dismissed today by Shaun Tait - a new low.

who actually bowled really well today...maybe you havent watched it yet Richard (it wouldnt surprise me to be honest)

 

[DCC_legend]

He was bowling V.well today TBH.

IMO just drop them both, Call up Mal Loye and some one else, thena ppoint Paul Collingwood as captain. Problem Solved.

 

[Richard]

who actually bowled really well today...maybe you havent watched it yet Richard (it wouldnt surprise me to be honest)

I did watch both dismissals - and both dragged-on nothing balls, playing with angled bats.

Tait may have bowled well but those 2 wickets (not so the Collingwood one) were terrible batting for which no credit can be attributed to the accuracy of the bowlers.

 

[Richard]

He was bowling V.well today TBH.

IMO just drop them both, Call up Mal Loye and some one else, thena ppoint Paul Collingwood as captain. Problem Solved.

Calling-up Loye is posthumous now, though. Loye's time has come and gone.

 

[Ash_A55]

Lets drop both of em, but who could replace them, long-term?

 

[steds]

I did watch both dismissals - and both dragged-on nothing balls, playing with angled bats.

Tait may have bowled well but those 2 wickets (not so the Collingwood one) were terrible batting for which no credit can be attributed to the accuracy of the bowlers.

Indeed. Tait bowled brilliantly, but Vaughan and Strauss were shocking.

 

[Ash_A55]

Indeed. Tait bowled brilliantly, but Vaughan and Strauss were shocking.

Couldn't agree more

 

[Richard]

Lets drop both of em, but who could replace them, long-term?

Well Marcus Trescothick will obviously come back if he's recovered - he's only 31 and should make WC2011. And TBH, I think James Benning should be the man picked to partner him, though like Loye it does worry me a bit that he's a manufactured opener - in the First-Class game he's a middle-order batsman and, AFAIK, he's never opened before doing so for Surrey.

Nor is it OOTQ that Bell might open with him. I do even wonder about Joseph Denly, though selecting within the next year would be pure stupidity.

 

[Ash_A55]

Threschothick wont go on any more tours, because his wife sleeps around whilst he's away. That was his 'mental breakdown'

 

[Ash_A55]

However Threscothick make a double-hundred today.