Greatest ever ODI XI

[nibbs]

Warne batting above Pollock and Wasim.... ?

problem, ews?

 

[Evermind]

1. Gilchrist
2. Jayasuria
3. Tendulkar
4. Lara
5. Botham
6. Lance Klusner
7. (The pakistan captain one) Khan
8. Akram
9. Murali
10.Pollock
11. McGrath

Surely, someone (anyone) for Botham! Flintoff > Botham.

Why would you take 6 fast bowlers in a team? Richards and/or Ponting in for Mcgrath and/or Botham.

1. Gilchrist
2. Tendulkar
3. Ponting
4. Lara
5. IVA Richards
6. Hussey/Bevan
7. L Klusner
8. Imran Khan
9. W Akram
10. S Pollock
11. M Murali

They bat to #10

 

[a massive zebra]

Adam Gilchrist (wk)
Sachin Tendulkar
Viv Richards (cpt)
Brian Lara
Dean Jones
Zaheer Abbas
Michael Bevan
Richard Hadlee
Curtley Ambrose
Joel Garner
Muttiah Muralitharan

 

[Richard]

I'd have thought amz, being the astute chap he is, would have split the thing into eras.

Given that 1970s\80s ODIs were in no way comparable to 1990s\2000s ones.

 

[shortpitched713]

Given that 1970s\80s ODIs were in no way comparable to 1990s\2000s ones.

They are different, but I wouldn't consider them different sports. Middle over batting/bowling are two things that are about the same for one..

 

[Richard]

That's so, so not true. Regulations are completely different - about the only thing the two have in common are the fact that the overs are limited and that there were some 50-over games in the 1970s and 80s.

In those old days all you needed to do was bowl a half-decent line and length and you'd usually go for under 4-an-over. Now you need to be absolutely immaculate to do that. Says a lot about changes in field-restrictions and batting attitudes.

 

[Prince EWS]

problem, ews?

Yeah, actually. Solved now though.

 

[open365]

That's so, so not true. Regulations are completely different - about the only thing the two have in common are the fact that the overs are limited and that there were some 50-over games in the 1970s and 80s.

In those old days all you needed to do was bowl a half-decent line and length and you'd usually go for under 4-an-over. Now you need to be absolutely immaculate to do that. Says a lot about changes in field-restrictions and batting attitudes.

But would you disagree that any player from the 70s/80s deemed worthy enough to be in an all time ODI side would have the class to compete in any era?

It's fair enough not wanting to deliberate lesser players from different eras, but there are some players no matter what time they play in that will always be top of the pile.

I'm not going to name a full side, but imo there are some players that have to be in any side; Tendulkar, Richards, Garner and Bevan.

I don't really see how anyone could come up with a side that didn't include those 4 players.

 

[Perm]

1. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
2. Sanath Jayasuriya
3. Viv Richards
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Dean Jones
6. Michael Bevan
7. Kapil Dev
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Joel Garner

There are so many disputable positions really, most notably if you are going to have a second specialist spinner, would it be Warne or Saqlain? Does Dean Jones deserve to be in there ahead of guys like Ponting, Inzamam, Ganguly, Lara? Is Sanath Jayasuriya and Adam Gilchrist a consistent enough combination at the top of the order? Should Glenn McGrath or Shane Bond be in the side?

Too much speculation as far as I'm concerned, it's almost harder than naming a Greatest Ever Test XI.

 

[Gladiator667]

But would you disagree that any player from the 70s/80s deemed worthy enough to be in an all time ODI side would have the class to compete in any era?

I would love to have seen the damage some of the batsman from the 70s and 80s would have done with the Bats they are using today coupled with the boundaries being brought in as far as they are.

 

[shortpitched713]

That's so, so not true. Regulations are completely different - about the only thing the two have in common are the fact that the overs are limited and that there were some 50-over games in the 1970s and 80s.

In those old days all you needed to do was bowl a half-decent line and length and you'd usually go for under 4-an-over. Now you need to be absolutely immaculate to do that. Says a lot about changes in field-restrictions and batting attitudes.

I agree with you that there have been changes to the game, but the only significant one is fielding restrictions. Batting/bowling attitudes are naturally going to change over time, and I don't see how thats different from any other sport.

Middle overs batting/bowling are about the same. Can you address this point?

 

[J.J.B.Lewis]

My alltime ODI XI:

+Adam Gilchrist
Sachin Tendulkar
Ricky Ponting
Vivian Richards
Michael Bevan
Lance Klusener
*Imran Khan
Shaun Pollock
Wasim Akram
Joel Garner
Muttiah Muralitharan

 

[Ash_A55]

Surely, someone (anyone) for Botham! Flintoff > Botham.

Why would you take 6 fast bowlers in a team? Richards and/or Ponting in for Mcgrath and/or Botham.

Whats with the anti-Botham feeling guys? Alright he might not have been the greatest ODI, but the whole point of everyone making thier own team is to come up with different combinations. I dont want to pick the players you suggest because most people already have them!

 

[Ash_A55]

6. Hussey/Bevan

Hussey dosent deserve to be in an all time XI, he has barely been on the scene 2 years. bevan would be a more acceptable choice. Hussey has the quality but he hasnt been around long enough, not to mention his complete failure at this WC.

 

[nightprowler10]

I dont want to pick the players you suggest because most people already have them!

To each his own, but you really should be picking based on who you think is the best rather than just trying to be different.

 

[Ash_A55]

Therefore i chose the best different players

 

[Richard]

But would you disagree that any player from the 70s/80s deemed worthy enough to be in an all time ODI side would have the class to compete in any era?

It's fair enough not wanting to deliberate lesser players from different eras, but there are some players no matter what time they play in that will always be top of the pile.

I'm not going to name a full side, but imo there are some players that have to be in any side; Tendulkar, Richards, Garner and Bevan.

I don't really see how anyone could come up with a side that didn't include those 4 players.

I don't see how anyone could come-up with a side that drew from players who'd played 2 completely different games. Of course it's overwhelmingly likely that Richards, Garner, etc. would have excelled in the modern ODI game - but the simple fact of the matter is that they didn't play it. So it's pointless picking XIs drawing from sets of players who played completely different games.