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    The Test Ratings

    just wanted to talk about the test ratings on the front page. They are pretty bad, but not discusting. i think the pakistanis are quite good but not that good, i ratings would be

    Aussie
    New Zealand
    Sri Lanka
    South Africa
    Pakistan
    India
    England (sorry....) Zimbarbwe (tie with west indies, both have a class batsman)
    West Indies (tie with zimbarbwe, both have a class batsman)
    Bangladesh
    well, wat can i say. I'm perfect!

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    just wanted to talk about the test ratings on the front page. They are pretty bad, but not discusting. i think the pakistanis are quite good but not that good, i ratings would be

    Aussie
    New Zealand
    Sri Lanka
    South Africa
    Pakistan
    India
    England (sorry....) Zimbarbwe (tie with west indies, both have a class batsman)
    West Indies (tie with zimbarbwe, both have a class batsman)
    Bangladesh

    P.S. someone delete my previous post bacause it was messy

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    bugger!! its the same

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    Australia
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    New Zealand
    England
    Sri Lanka
    India
    Pakistan
    West Indies/Zimbabwe
    Bangladesh


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    yeah i dont think those test ratings reflect on how could the teams are
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    Australia
    South Africa
    New Zealand
    Pakistan
    England
    India
    Sri Lanka
    West Indies
    Zimbabwe
    Bangladesh

    Can't believe Sri Lanka are number 3 at the moment, they need to get away from home more. Hope the Aussies beat South Africa again in the return series. They definitely don't deserve to be number 1.

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    Australia
    South Africa
    New Zealand
    India
    Sri Lanka
    Pakistan
    England
    West Indies
    Zimbabwe
    Bangladesh

    The real test rankings are too slow to catch up.

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    The question I have is that do Australia deserve to be listed where they are?

    I mean they won 16 tests in a row against Sri Lanka, India, Pakistan and other weak teams.

    And they played these teams just as they were falling into a bad patch.

    Also they played almost all of these tests at home, hey even India can win at home!

    They have a 4 bowler attack and if you get on top of any 1 of them then they crumble
    (look at Dravid and VVS Laxman in the second test against Australia in India).

    So after all that can you really say they are great or just lucky?
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    schak: Name a team which has done better, and then we'll talk about who's lucky.

    Just to put your comments about who the 'weak' teams are in perspective:

    Sri Lanka: Australia didn't win that series and even didn't win a Test in the series. It was decided 1-0 Sri Lanka's way with something like 10 of the 15 possible days of play being washed out or not played due to Sri Lanka having thrashed the pants off us within 3 days in the first Test. Sri Lanka are hardly a weak team anymore, especially at home.

    India: India beat Australia 2-1 in India and with a top order as good as theirs, once again, hardly a weak team.

    Pakistan: Pakistan regardless of their results, will NEVER be considered a weak team with players of the calibre of Akhtar, Youhanna, Anwar, Sami etc. available.

    The only 'weak' team Australia have wrecked of late have been the Worst Indies. The series in England was more a reflection of England selection than the talent in their ranks.

    And let's not forget that Australia have mangled SA in 5 our of 6 Tests recently, with the sixth in doubt but SA should win it.

    To put others' comments in perspective about away wins, MOST teams only win at home anyway. Australia just have a higher proportion than most of away wins. Let's have a look in the 90's at who wins away from home in Test series (from Cricinfo):

    Australia
    52 matches
    20 Wins (38.46%)
    16 Series
    7 wins (43.75%)

    New Zealand
    41 matches
    6 wins (14.63%)
    15 series
    2 wins (13.33%)

    South Africa
    30 matches
    10 wins (33.33%)
    12 series
    6 wins (50%)

    England
    50 matches
    9 wins (18%)
    13 series
    2 wins (15.38%)

    Sri Lanka
    36 matches
    5 wins (13.89%)
    16 series
    4 wins (25%)

    Pakistan
    41 matches
    17 wins (41.46%)
    17 series
    9 wins (52.94%)

    India
    39 matches
    1 win (2.56%)*s******z*
    15 series
    1 win (6.67%)

    West Indies
    40 matches
    11 wins (27.50%)
    11 series
    2 wins (18.18%)

    Zimbabwe
    17 matches
    1 win (5.88%)
    9 series
    1 win (11.11%)

    Bangladesh
    6 matches
    0 wins
    3 series
    0 wins

    So if we are to take these figures at face value, you'd see that Pakistan overall seems to be the best away team, with South Africa and Australia next on the list followed by SL and the West Indies.

    However if you only take into account the top 5 teams (in terms of % series wins), notice this:

    - Australia has beaten all of the others in the top 4 (SL, West Indies, SA, Pakistan) away from Australia.

    - Other than Australia, they've all beaten each other at home and away.

    - None of them have beaten Australia at home (them away in other words).

    This suggests that Australia is the better away team of all of them. Australia has consistently shown it's ability to beat the better teams away from home (whilst losing to the weaker teams..........go figure) whereas teams such as South Africa and Pakistan, beat the weaker teams (thereby bolstering their numbers) and then go lose to Australia in Australia.

    This is why Australia is rated as the superior Test team of the 90's and so the ranking is justified. To be honest, the rankings don't take into account who you beat, on the wins alone which explains the ridiculous situation where Australia has beaten SA in every Test series in the last 5 years and 3-0 at home, yet Australia had to defend the world championship crown by BEATING SA. That's nuts, considering their recent form which to me, shows the futility of the whole 'World Champion' thing anyway.

    As for getting on top of one bowler and Australia crumbling, forgetting that Dravid and Laxman batted EXTREMELY well on a perfect batting track, name me one team that DOESN'T at least get affected when their best bowler is taking some hammer. Same thing happens to SA when any team takes to Pollock, to India when Kumble takes some hammer, to NZ when Cairns is geting belted, to Pakistan when Akram got hit around and to England when Caddick or Gough get hit around. OF COURSE you're going to get affected when your best bowler is getting smacked around. No team is immune to that.

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    schak82 to even sugest that Australia are not at least 3 times better than the next best team is stupid !!

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    How can schak82 say Pakistan and India are weak teams! Anybody who can beat these two must be very good.
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    Australia - Definitely the best in the world!
    Sri Lanka - 8 wins in a row. At a time of lack, enough for 2nd
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    South Africa - Well past their peak. 1-5 v Aus
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    As a uni student I often have to think about stuff. So in my classes I think about this kind of stuff.

    COMING SOON will be my own style of Cricket Rankings. It will be good(maybe) and will be updated every so often. If you think it is worth using somewhere then

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