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**Official** India in Bangladesh

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Not trying so sound arrogant or over-confident but CAN he score a century against Bangladesh?????
Even ignoring the quality of the attack he'll be facing, the pitches he'll encounter there could well see him score some runs. He won't get any in England though.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No Ashraful?
That's what I thought, surely Ashraful would be preferred over Aftab or Saqibul. Considering the fact he scored heavily when he went back to domestic cricket I think he would be a certainty for a spot in the middle order.

Time to see some youth in that middle order. Preferably for Laxman.
Laxman was just named VC, surely it wouldn't hurt to "rest" Tendulkar for these games against Bangladesh and give Yuvraj a chance? Guys like Yuvraj, Kaif and Badrinath need exposure beacuse it's likely that the big 3 from India will all retire around the same time.

Even ignoring the quality of the attack he'll be facing, the pitches he'll encounter there could well see him score some runs. He won't get any in England though.
My thoughts exactly, he'll blast some runs against Bangladesh and then Matthew Hoggard will make him his bunny in England.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Laxman was just named VC. Ganguly has come back strong. Who would you drop?
Ganguly, play Dinesh Karthik who showed some heart and bottle. Ganguly got runs in South Africa but never enough and some of his knocks were beyond the realms of fortunate (be hard pressed to find a worse knock than his 26 at Durban). Although, the likes of Laxman and Sachin have done little to suggest they will amount to much in England this summer.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Ganguly, play Dinesh Karthik who showed some heart and bottle. Ganguly got runs in South Africa but never enough and some of his knocks were beyond the realms of fortunate (be hard pressed to find a worse knock than his 26 at Durban). Although, the likes of Laxman and Sachin have done little to suggest they will amount to much in England this summer.
It would be ridiculous to drop Ganguly - who was pretty much the only one of the old guard who showed the ability to score some runs. He has done nothing wrong since coming back. I strongly agreed with his drop, and didn't like the fact that he came back. But I was wrong, and he has proven me wrong in the only way that matters: he scored runs. That's something the other batsmen can't really say.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Why? So he can score a century against Bangladesh and get owned first ball in England?
Do you want Sehwag out of the test side on a permanent basis? I am merely suggesting that the management might not drop him after he top-scored in the last two matches. Will he never amount to anything on non-flat tracks? The only way to find out is to have him sign with a county side or try him once against England. I'll take Jaffer-Gambhir if it happens.
 
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adharcric

International Coach
It would be ridiculous to drop Ganguly - who was pretty much the only one of the old guard who showed the ability to score some runs. He has done nothing wrong since coming back. I strongly agreed with his drop, and didn't like the fact that he came back. But I was wrong, and he has proven me wrong in the only way that matters: he scored runs. That's something the other batsmen can't really say.
Agreed. You really can't drop Ganguly considering he's been scoring runs. Karthik deserves an opportunity but only at the expense of Dhoni.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Perm said:
Surely it wouldn't hurt to "rest" Tendulkar for these games against Bangladesh and give Yuvraj a chance? Guys like Yuvraj, Kaif and Badrinath need exposure beacuse it's likely that the big 3 from India will all retire around the same time.
Interesting idea. These three need exposure but the likes of Dravid and Tendulkar also need to regain some confidence ahead of the tour of England. Rather than playing Yuvi/Kaif/Badri and replacing them even if they do well, I would wait for one of the big guns to fail (either in Bangladesh or England) and replace them when appropriate.
 
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pup11

International Coach
This is last series i would be interested to see, but again i won't be suprised if Bangladesh produce another upset over India (but on the other hand even if Bangladesh beat India should we even then call it an upset anymore).
 

Salamuddin

International Debutant
Not trying so sound arrogant or over-confident but CAN he score a century against Bangladesh?????

Sehwag may not have had a happy time of late....but I still think he is quality player....
seriously, give the guy some credit.... he averages close to 50 and has test hundreds in RSA, West Indies, Australia, Pakistan and England.

And please this talk about him not having the ability to score a hundred in either Bangladesh or England is a bit of joke since he clearly showed that he is capable pf scoring a hundred in England (on a pitch offering a fair amount of seam movement) in 2002.

Not saying he shouldn't be dropped right now...at least till he can sort himself out, BUT I do think you've gotta be a reasonably good player to have the test record he has.
 
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cricman

International 12th Man
I can't see Enamul Haque jnr playing: Bangladesh haven't played a Test for over a year now and he hasn't been on top form for his division or the A squad. Razzak may not have much of a Test record (only played once IIRC) but must surely be good enough given his ODI form. Likewise Saqibul - bit of solidarity. And Javed Omar to return up top.
I hate too say this but Razzak isn't Test Material yet he can't bowl 25-30 if needed and Enamul Haque jnr is a special player he isn't the typical bangladeshi SLA he attacks and tries to get wickets and can turn a match at any moment.

Just took 6/106 vs Sri Lanka A

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/srilanka/engine/current/match/282697.html
 
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Jungle Jumbo

International Vice-Captain
I hate too say this but Razzak isn't Test Material yet he can't bowl 25-30 if needed and Enamul Haque jnr is a special player he isn't the typical bangladeshi SLA he attacks and tries to get wickets and can turn a match at any moment.

Just took 6/106 vs Sri Lanka A

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/srilanka/engine/current/match/282697.html
Haha, just seen that. One thing that may count against Razzak is his lack of FC experience. Because he's playing for Bangladesh most of the time, he's not played much four-day stuff.
 

Jungle Jumbo

International Vice-Captain
For Bangladesh, something like:

1 Javed Omar
2 Shahriar Nafees
3 Rajin Saleh
4 Habibul Bashar
5 Saqibul Hasan
6 Aftab Ahmed
7 Mushfiqur Rahim
8 Mohammad Rafique
9 Abdur Razzak
10 Mashrafe Mortaza
11 Shahadat Hossain

I can't see Enamul Haque jnr playing: Bangladesh haven't played a Test for over a year now and he hasn't been on top form for his division or the A squad. Razzak may not have much of a Test record (only played once IIRC) but must surely be good enough given his ODI form. Likewise Saqibul - bit of solidarity. And Javed Omar to return up top.
I don't really know why I posted this last night: Enamul's recent record is actually pretty solid and he's just taking 6 wickets against Sri Lanka A, as shown above. Ashraful is clearly ahead of Aftab in the batting stakes, after the latter's two (perhaps three?) terrible shots to get out in the World Cup. I can't see why Saqibul won't get a go though.
 

cricman

International 12th Man
I wouldn't surprise me if Nazimuddin or even Kapali get a call up, Kapali's been batting well and his legspin is always a useful asset to have with the SLA. I really hope Habibul retires from ODI after the WC he can play test cricket and even 20/20 but ODI doesn't suit him well.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I would HONESTLY like to see Sachin, Rahul, Sourav and Dhoni rested. The big three because we need to figure out our future batting options NOW. If the second rung can do it against Bangladesh, it wont mean much but if some of them fail few times in succession against this side, it would be pretty evident that those guys aren't international class, at least not yet.

Dhoni because I think Karthik deserves a few tests and ODIs as the specialist keeper in the side.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I'm suprised at the lack of confidence in Dhoni from some of the Indian supports on this forum to be honest, the man has done a superb job in ODI's for India and he was one of the best batsman in the last test series against South Africa. Back him to score a few runs before calling for his head, I agree that Dinesh Karthik is a fine player who looks to have a big future ahead of him but until Dhoni does poorly and warrants being dropped, then the selectors need to stick with him.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I'm suprised at the lack of confidence in Dhoni from some of the Indian supports on this forum to be honest, the man has done a superb job in ODI's for India and he was one of the best batsman in the last test series against South Africa. Back him to score a few runs before calling for his head, I agree that Dinesh Karthik is a fine player who looks to have a big future ahead of him but until Dhoni does poorly and warrants being dropped, then the selectors need to stick with him.
not drop him, rest him. :)


Because I honestly think Kaarthick needs a whole series as a keeper so that we have some idea of him vis-a-vis Dhoni. The odd games are only small indicators. A whole series will provide a much better idea. And I want Dhoni to be rested for Tests only, I think he should play the ODIs.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I'm suprised at the lack of confidence in Dhoni from some of the Indian supports on this forum to be honest, the man has done a superb job in ODI's for India and he was one of the best batsman in the last test series against South Africa. Back him to score a few runs before calling for his head, I agree that Dinesh Karthik is a fine player who looks to have a big future ahead of him but until Dhoni does poorly and warrants being dropped, then the selectors need to stick with him.
No doubt at all that he should be in the ODI side IMO - but I reckon Karthick will be a better player at test level. His keeping is more polished and his batting suits the format more.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No doubt at all that he should be in the ODI side IMO - but I reckon Karthick will be a better player at test level. His keeping is more polished and his batting suits the format more.
He has played almost 50 first class games and still has an average under 30, until he starts scoring some runs for India A and Tamil Nadu then I think the selectors should stick with the incumbent Dhoni. No need to replace what isn't broken.
 

pup11

International Coach
I think Dhoni should open in odi cricket, his best knocks have come batting at the top-order and you need not be a rocket scientist to figure that out, i never understood the wisdom behind opening with Uthappa who seriously lacks the temperament to be a international player his shot selections might even give G. Jones some serious competition.

But seriously expecting Dhoni to be the next Gilly isn't the right thing to do.
 

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