"level Playing Field"

HILTS3188 · 24-03-2007, 04:37 PM

CAN PONTING,SEHWAG,SMITH.AND ALL THE OTHER BIG HITTERS OF THE MODERN GAME BE COMPARED EQUALLY IN TERMS OF THEIR STATURE IN THE GAME AND THE POINTS THEY HAVE SCORED WHEN THE DIAMETER OF THE BOUNDARIES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT INTO 65 METRES?.........

SURELY PLAYERS OF SOBERS AND BOTHAM AND RICHARDS AND LLOYD OF THE PAST WOULD HAVE BIGGER SCORES IF THEY WERE ALL EQUAL?........

PLEASE DISCUSS?

Richard · 24-03-2007, 04:45 PM

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James · 24-03-2007, 04:53 PM

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HILTS3188 · 24-03-2007, 05:27 PM

my apologies everyone,just a habit i have got into

Prince EWS · 24-03-2007, 05:29 PM

I feel the size of grounds is the most over-rated factor in the how many runs a batsman scores. It doesn't matter how big the field is if you get out - prevent that from occuring and you'll score runs. Obviously the pitches play a large part in that though...

BoyBrumby · 24-03-2007, 05:32 PM

Has to have an effect tho. The shorter the boundaries the more likely you are to see miss-hits & top edges sail over the fence. Bat technology has improved markedly too.

Goughy · 24-03-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Has to have an effect tho. The shorter the boundaries the more likely you are to see miss-hits & top edges sail over the fence. Bat technology has improved markedly too.

Yeah, both the bats and the boundaries give the batsman a greater freedom to play more aggressively . Shots do not carry the same level of risk as previously.

LA ICE-E · 24-03-2007, 05:37 PM

boundaries are the basic reason for such high scores plus bit with the bat, and 20/20 and the powerplays but boundaries are the main reason

Prince EWS · 24-03-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Has to have an effect tho. The shorter the boundaries the more likely you are to see miss-hits & top edges sail over the fence. Bat technology has improved markedly too.

Yeah it has some effect, but not a huge one, IMO. It only has an effect on how quickly a batsman scores really (except when they are hitting sixes that just clear the fielder's head over the rope.. but that's fairly rare in test cricket) rather than how long he stays out there.

BoyBrumby · 24-03-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

Yeah it has some effect, but not a huge one, IMO. It only has an effect on how quickly a batsman scores really (except when they are hitting sixes that just clear the fielder's head over the rope.. but that's fairly rare in test cricket) rather than how long he stays out there.

Not necessarily I'd say. A boundary ten yards shorter can mean the difference between top-edging a pull into third man's welcoming grasp & a six.

PhoenixFire · 25-03-2007, 06:33 AM

That ground yesterday in the Aus v SA match was just plain ridiculous. The pitch looked like concrete and the ground was about as big as my back garden (a slight exaggeration). Compare this to the MCG or the WACA back in the old days when they used the advertising hoardings as boundary markers, and it seems a bit unfair doesn't it?

HILTS3188 · 25-03-2007, 08:13 AM

my thoughts exactly phoenix fire

readie · 25-03-2007, 11:41 PM

The shorter boundaries and improved technology does have an effect on the ability of a batsmen to hit high/fast scores but so has the advent of one-day cricket. i.e todays playing generation have all grown up with one day cricket as a form of cricket to model their game on as youngsters causing them to becoome more aggressive.

Most cricketers also play more one-day cricket, gone are the days of schools playing matches larger than 50 overs a side and the largest club games you get are two day games (in australia at least)

rafa5times · 26-03-2007, 01:14 PM

well then hilts3188 i dont no if anyone else noticed but i heard a certain ex cricketer on sky sports ask the same question, i think when the pitch is so small they should give the top order batsmen smaller bats or sponge balls anyone agree?

open365 · 26-03-2007, 01:22 PM

But couldn't it work the other way?

Bigger playing areas = more singles/twos/threes oppurtunity and more area to hit the ball in without being caught.

Was too young in the olden days but i doubt it has that much affect, i mean, the boundaries in Australia are huge, doesn't mean the scores are noticeably lower.

24-03-2007, 04:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
HILTS3188 Cricket Spectator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: liverpool uk Posts: 21	"level Playing Field" CAN PONTING,SEHWAG,SMITH.AND ALL THE OTHER BIG HITTERS OF THE MODERN GAME BE COMPARED EQUALLY IN TERMS OF THEIR STATURE IN THE GAME AND THE POINTS THEY HAVE SCORED WHEN THE DIAMETER OF THE BOUNDARIES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT INTO 65 METRES?......... SURELY PLAYERS OF SOBERS AND BOTHAM AND RICHARDS AND LLOYD OF THE PAST WOULD HAVE BIGGER SCORES IF THEY WERE ALL EQUAL?........ PLEASE DISCUSS? __________________ "HAS ANYONE SEEN ME TURNIPS"

24-03-2007, 05:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Prince EWS Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New South Wales Posts: 37,707	I feel the size of grounds is the most over-rated factor in the how many runs a batsman scores. It doesn't matter how big the field is if you get out - prevent that from occuring and you'll score runs. Obviously the pitches play a large part in that though... __________________ ~ Cribbage

24-03-2007, 05:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,613	Has to have an effect tho. The shorter the boundaries the more likely you are to see miss-hits & top edges sail over the fence. Bat technology has improved markedly too. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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LA ICE-E State Captain Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: LA Posts: 1,973	boundaries are the basic reason for such high scores plus bit with the bat, and 20/20 and the powerplays but boundaries are the main reason __________________ LA ICE-E Future Of Cricket

25-03-2007, 11:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
readie State Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 934	The shorter boundaries and improved technology does have an effect on the ability of a batsmen to hit high/fast scores but so has the advent of one-day cricket. i.e todays playing generation have all grown up with one day cricket as a form of cricket to model their game on as youngsters causing them to becoome more aggressive. Most cricketers also play more one-day cricket, gone are the days of schools playing matches larger than 50 overs a side and the largest club games you get are two day games (in australia at least) __________________ http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4...bannerever.png

24-03-2007, 05:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
HILTS3188 Cricket Spectator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: liverpool uk Posts: 21	my apologies everyone,just a habit i have got into

25-03-2007, 08:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
HILTS3188 Cricket Spectator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: liverpool uk Posts: 21	my thoughts exactly phoenix fire

26-03-2007, 01:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
rafa5times Cricket Spectator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: liverpool Posts: 15	well then hilts3188 i dont no if anyone else noticed but i heard a certain ex cricketer on sky sports ask the same question, i think when the pitch is so small they should give the top order batsmen smaller bats or sponge balls anyone agree? __________________ bring back the turnip six

26-03-2007, 01:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
open365 International Vice-Captain Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: liverpool Posts: 4,066	But couldn't it work the other way? Bigger playing areas = more singles/twos/threes oppurtunity and more area to hit the ball in without being caught. Was too young in the olden days but i doubt it has that much affect, i mean, the boundaries in Australia are huge, doesn't mean the scores are noticeably lower.

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