Intro to Cricket

[Moe_Syzlak]

I have a question about an Under 18 coming up between I think it is England and Pakistan. Is this a good measure of future talent? Alot of times in football you will see a side do well in "youth" tournaments, and then when they mature it is like they totally lost their talent.

 

[Moe_Syzlak]

Brian Lara and Tendulukar (?sp?). I read how the fans of their countries are now asking for them to retire. Is this pretty common in cricket? From the bit that I have read, they seemed like they did well for their sides and now the fans are turning on them. How long on average does a International player career last?

 

[silentstriker]

Brian Lara and Tendulukar (?sp?). I read how the fans of their countries are now asking for them to retire. Is this pretty common in cricket?

Same as any other sport.

How long on average does a International player career last?

Used to be longer, but around 10-12 years, I would say. Depends on when you lose form or when you started, of course. Hussey started late so his career probably won't be 10 years.

 

[StumpMic]

Brian Lara and Tendulukar (?sp?). I read how the fans of their countries are now asking for them to retire. Is this pretty common in cricket? From the bit that I have read, they seemed like they did well for their sides and now the fans are turning on them. How long on average does a International player career last?

Reminds me of that gladiator quote: The mob is fickle.

 

[Mahindinho]

The Guardian* is a left-wing rag, and I've never really read the Independent, good call on the Telegraph, but also, the coverage in the Times is top-notch.#

*probably has a decent sports-section mind

It has (the Guardian, that is). Their sports website, sport.guardian.co.uk, is excellent, with some really good columns, and I love their over-by-over commentary.

I used to read the Times, but got too annoyed with their descent into the gutter press -- oh, and the pro-Arsenal/ManU bias of their football correspondents (I'm a Spurs fan). They're pretty much just a glorified tabloid these days

 

[Moe_Syzlak]

Hey guys still here, following the WC. I have a question about another match I notied, Sussex v MCC. Is that a 2 innings Test? If not what format is it? And what is this match for?

 

[silentstriker]

Test matches are only between two nations. And no, World XI vs Australia is not a Test .

 

[nightprowler10]

And no, World XI vs Australia is not a Test .

Unless given test status by the ICC.

 

[silentstriker]

Unless given test status by the ICC.

They can give it whatever status they want, it's still not a Test.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Hey guys still here, following the WC. I have a question about another match I notied, Sussex v MCC. Is that a 2 innings Test? If not what format is it? And what is this match for?

It's a 2-innings "first class match" - so the level right below Tests. I think the official title is champion county match - Sussex won the County Championship last season and so play against MCC, who select a side of talented cricketers right outside the England team (who are obviously unavailable at present) to play them.

However, it's not much more than a glorified exhibition game.

 

[nightprowler10]

They can give it whatever status they want, it's still not a Test.

I think you're a bit mistaken. It works the other around. You can call it whatever you want, but its a Test if the ICC say so.

 

[silentstriker]

I think you're a bit mistaken. It works the other around. You can call it whatever you want, but its a Test if the ICC say so.

ICC says a lot of things, most of which make no sense. They can put it in the stats book as a Test, but that doesn't mean I will count it as such when looking at players' records. A lot of statisticians don't count matches like that as Tests, and I don't either.

 

[shortpitched713]

ICC says a lot of things, most of which make no sense. They can put it in the stats book as a Test, but that doesn't mean I will count it as such when looking at players' records. A lot of statisticians don't count matches like that as Tests, and I don't either.

Are you seriously going to parse the records for one match whenever you refer to a player's Test batting or bowling average?

 

[silentstriker]

Are you seriously going to parse the records for one match whenever you refer to a player's Test batting or bowling average?

No, probably I wouldn't be bothered. But if I wanted to take a serious look at a player's record, then I definitely would.

 

[nightprowler10]

ICC says a lot of things, most of which make no sense. They can put it in the stats book as a Test, but that doesn't mean I will count it as such when looking at players' records. A lot of statisticians don't count matches like that as Tests, and I don't either.

Which is fine, but to tell a guy who is trying to learn about cricket that it doesn't count? Don't forget what what the thread is for.

 

[silentstriker]

Which is fine, but to tell a guy who is trying to learn about cricket that it doesn't count? Don't forget what what the thread is for.

But I think its a widely held opinion that it does not count.

 

[nightprowler10]

But I think its a widely held opinion that it does not count.

Its a ridiculous debate, really. I know it should not have counted, you're right that most will agree, but it did. Only reason I even said anything is because you made it sound like to the guy that it didn't count. Period. Which was not the case.