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    Best of the rest?

    Who do you think is the best batsman/bowler/overall cricketer outside of the mainstream Test and ODI teams (I mean like Canada, Ireland, Scotland, Kenya, Netherlands, or even Namiba ) and could you name an XI (I will do one later)

    For many years it was Steve Tikolo, but surely it would be Ryan ten Doeschate, I know he has 20 FC games, but I guess if he were playing in SA were eligible (ie not be a Judas ) for them as well he could be good enough for South Africa (considering some of the players they have picked), but I'm only basing that on his stats without yet seeing him play, so forgive me there if I'm wrong.
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    IMO a top 5 would be

    1.Ryan Ten Doeschate
    2.Thomas Odoyo
    3.Ryan Watson
    4.Steve Tikolo
    5.John Davison

    An X1 IMO would look like this

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    John Davison
    Ryan Watson
    Steve Tikolo
    Ryan Ten Doeschate
    Eoin Morgan
    Niall O'Brien
    Thomas Odoyo
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    I saw Ten Doeschate play for Essex in an OD game last summer, and although his performance wasn't outstanding (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/hamps...h/224921.html), he looked to have something about him.

    Was posing problems with the ball despite the odd four-ball, was hustling with the bat in the late overs and was active in the field. Good cricketer.

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    Dwayne Levrock has a case for inclusion....

    ODIs 17 886 545 19 /5/53 5/53 28.68 3.69 46.63 0 1 0
    First-class 8 2191 956 37 7/57 25.83 2.61 59.21 1 3 1


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    The top 5 would be,

    Thomas Odoyo
    Morgan
    Tikolo
    Ryan Ten Doeschate
    Ravindu Shah

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Bunny View Post
    Dwayne Levrock has a case for inclusion....

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    Bowling wise, I've not seen much of either, but Odoyo is more of a strike bowler than ten Doeschate (sp?), who plays as a fourth or fifth seamer in the Essex side.

    Tikolo, Odoyo and Shah would have been good enough to play for several other ODI sides at the peak of their careers. Tikolo in particular, had he had the exposure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Bunny View Post
    Dwayne Levrock has a case for inclusion....

    ODIs 17 886 545 19 /5/53 5/53 28.68 3.69 46.63 0 1 0
    First-class 8 2191 956 37 7/57 25.83 2.61 59.21 1 3 1
    Although all of the above stats have come against associate nations, you have a point.

    Watson and Ten Doeschate would be right up there, I imagine.

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    My top 5 would be

    1. John Davison (obviously)
    2. Odoyo
    3. Doeschate
    4. Will Porterfield (Ireland, has an average of 70 doesnt he?)
    5. Ryan Watson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomm NCCC View Post
    My top 5 would be

    1. John Davison (obviously)
    2. Odoyo
    3. Doeschate
    4. Will Porterfield (Ireland, has an average of 70 doesnt he?)
    5. Ryan Watson
    Surely you can't rate the bottom two above Shah and Tikolo, even though they are getting on in the years. Davison's batting hasn't been quite as impressive over the last year or so either (prepares to be buried under a deluge of hundreds).

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    Ten Doeschate is my number 1

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    Davison I don't think can be number 1, others are more proven as FC cricketers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    Davison I don't think can be number 1, others are more proven as FC cricketers.
    No worries, my lists never have any chronological order. wouldnt dream of rating Doeschate below Davison

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    Niall O'Brien has to be up there.



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