Hatrick with 2 balls

[mummyjen]

Hello Everyone

The local radio station has been asking this question for the last couple of days and no one seems to know the answer.
Who was the cricketer who got a hatrick with 2 balls. - thats right
we have heard Merv Hughes to Dennis Lilliee and everyone in between
So does anybody out there in Cricket Land know the answer
He wants to know when where and how he did it.
We thought it might be Craig McDermott - but I don't know how......

Thanking you all in advance

Mummyjen
(mother of boys!!)

 

[Josh]

I want to know how someone took a hattrick off 2 balls to begin with, nevermind who it was!

 

[silentstriker]

Only thing I can think of is a no ball run out, but then it wouldn't be a hat trick.

 

[GIMH]

Maybe both batsmen were standing in the same crease and got cleaned up?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Courtney Walsh and Jermaine Lawson did it against Australia (more than a decade apart). As those hat-tricks were spread across two innings, two different balls were used.

 

[Richard]

at some of the content.

The OP evidently meant 2 different cricket-balls and everyone bar Liam presumed 2 deliveries!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Which, of course, is impossible)

 

[Barney Rubble]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't you easily get a hat-trick off two legitimate deliveries if one of the dismissals was stumped off a wide? Maybe I'm missing something.

The two cricket balls argument is definitely the answer though.

 

[Richard]

Possibly. I'd presume such a thing has never happened, though.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

If that's the case, it could only be Tom Goddard for England against SA.

 

[GIMH]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't you easily get a hat-trick off two legitimate deliveries if one of the dismissals was stumped off a wide? Maybe I'm missing something.

The two cricket balls argument is definitely the answer though.

Doesn't that go down as a run-out? Or is that only if it's a no-ball?

 

[Richard]

The bowler cannot get a wicket of a no-ball. Only way a wicket can fall off one is if the batsman's stupid enough to get out handled-the-ball or hit-the-ball-twice. Or a run-out, but that's after the ball, and during the running following it.

He can get a stumping off a wide, though.

 

[nightprowler10]

Doesn't that go down as a run-out? Or is that only if it's a no-ball?

I didn't know a stumping was ever ruled as a run out, tbh. With a wide its definitely a stumping, as I've had a couple of those.

 

[Poker Boy]

Can I bring a bit of mischeif into this? Simon Hughes in "A Lot of Hard Yakka" said he once finished a match with two wickets in two balls (the match Middlesex won the 1990 CC) so I wonder - if he had took a wicket with his first ball in his next match (which he didin't) would that count as a hat-trick - in which case you could get a hat-trick spread over 2 matches!!

 

[Richard]

I once took a hat-trick playing for 2 different teams on the same day - Exeter CC U16s in the morning, Jeff Stanyer's (Formerly Known as Exeter Third) XI in the afternoon.

Each with different team-mates, so no-one in the 2nd team understood why I was so incredibly pleased to take a wicket with my 1st ball.

Dad once told me there was someone at Huddersfield when he played for them who took a wicket with the last ball of 1988 and another 2 with his first 2 of 1989... another strange hat-trick.

As far as I understand, it's not something officially defined as it's not remotely important, it's just something for you to make what you want of it.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Can I bring a bit of mischeif into this? Simon Hughes in "A Lot of Hard Yakka" said he once finished a match with two wickets in two balls (the match Middlesex won the 1990 CC) so I wonder - if he had took a wicket with his first ball in his next match (which he didin't) would that count as a hat-trick - in which case you could get a hat-trick spread over 2 matches!!

A hat-trick refers to 3 wickets in 3 balls in the same match.

 

[Richard]

This definition is made where?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

This definition is made where?

Well the quickest place to find the definition is here.

"A hat-trick occurs in cricket when a bowler dismisses three batsmen with consecutive deliveries in the same match."

 

[Richard]

Wiki's been known to over-simplify things before, though...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Wiki's been known to over-simplify things before, though...

That's not an oversimplification though. You can't really state the definition of a hat-trick in any more complex way. Or rather, it's unnecessary to do so.

It states clearly "three batsmen with consecutive deliveries in the same match." Hardly an oversimplification.

 

[Richard]

It could be if there is somewhere (which there might be for all I know) which defines it as "wickets with 3 consecutive deliveries".

I've never seen anything, myself, which confines it to one game.