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    Is Vaughan worth the risk?

    In probably the least surprising news of the week, Michael Vaughan is unfit for the CB Finals and is going home. But they still thnk he'll be fit for WC. But for how long? Unless we cock up completely against Canada and Kenya, England will play at least nine games in the WC (plus warm-ups). If Vaughan is fit for all of them, I'm a Dutchman. That means we'll be chopping and changing the captaincy AGAIN during the tournament. Does anyone think we should bite the bullet, accept Vaughan won't last the whole tournament give Styrauss the captaincy and let Michael concentrate on being fully fit for the domestic season. I know he's a good captain but as his ODI batting record is not good enough is it worth risking an unfit guy with a poor batting record just for his captaincy skills?
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    Do I think it should happen? Probably be for the best, yes.

    Do I think it will happen? Not a chance.

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    It wont happen, because fletcher is living with the pixies, and possibly the odd rabbit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poker Boy View Post
    In probably the least surprising news of the week, Michael Vaughan is unfit for the CB Finals and is going home. But they still thnk he'll be fit for WC. But for how long? Unless we cock up completely against Canada and Kenya, England will play at least nine games in the WC (plus warm-ups). If Vaughan is fit for all of them, I'm a Dutchman. That means we'll be chopping and changing the captaincy AGAIN during the tournament. Does anyone think we should bite the bullet, accept Vaughan won't last the whole tournament give Styrauss the captaincy and let Michael concentrate on being fully fit for the domestic season. I know he's a good captain but as his ODI batting record is not good enough is it worth risking an unfit guy with a poor batting record just for his captaincy skills?
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    If Vaughan's fit for all 7 World Cup games, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albo97056 View Post
    It wont happen, because fletcher is living with the pixies, and possibly the odd rabbit
    And of course he's the only one responsible for selection...?

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    He brings a surety to the side that can't be measured in averages. I'd play him every opportunity - I think we saw the effect it had during the game vs NZ.

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    I really, really do think it's just coincidence that 2 of the 3 victories happen to have come with him at the helm.

    Unless, that is, you genuinely believe he can turn Liam Plunkett into a Bowling Superman.

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    No, but I think Vaughan can give him the costume.

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    There's no way it's mere coincidence that England played so much better with Vaughan in charge the other night, particularly defending a total. Obviously he can't do everything, but he is the best captain in the world IMO, and he makes a huge difference to the side both in terms of the attitude he brings and his tactical prowess, especially compared to someone like Flintoff.

    Obviously he needs to be fit enough that he's not a liability though, which seems to be a bit of a problem these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad View Post
    There's no way it's mere coincidence that England played so much better with Vaughan in charge the other night, particularly defending a total.
    Better than what?

    It sure weren't the most recent game before that!

    Hell, even Plunkett bowled well in the Australia game! Something that's pretty much never happened before. And when that happens, you know things are running your way!

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    which is all fine and good except that vaughan wasnt captain in the Australia game. As such any fool could see the vast improvement in field placings and bowling changes in both NZ victories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poker Boy View Post
    In probably the least surprising news of the week, Michael Vaughan is unfit for the CB Finals and is going home. But they still thnk he'll be fit for WC. But for how long? Unless we cock up completely against Canada and Kenya, England will play at least nine games in the WC (plus warm-ups). If Vaughan is fit for all of them, I'm a Dutchman. That means we'll be chopping and changing the captaincy AGAIN during the tournament. Does anyone think we should bite the bullet, accept Vaughan won't last the whole tournament give Styrauss the captaincy and let Michael concentrate on being fully fit for the domestic season. I know he's a good captain but as his ODI batting record is not good enough is it worth risking an unfit guy with a poor batting record just for his captaincy skills?
    except that the Fletcher and the rest of the selectors are too busy puckering up to Flintoff for winning the Ashes back for them last year rather than giving the captaincy to anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    If Vaughan's fit for all 7 World Cup games, yes.
    Actually unless they cock up in the 1st round it will be nine games minimum - unless you don't count Kenya or Canada as contests? (Which they shouldn't be, I mean if Scotland can beat them)

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