The REAL allrounders Poll

[PhoenixFire]

Not only would but did. During the mid-80s Imran was unable to bowl due to his knee injuries, and played for Pakistan as a specialist batsman. Bowling was obviously the stronger part of his game, but he was unquestionably a Test-class batsman in his own right.

I suggest that his inspirational captaincy aided a lot towards his selection when he couldn't bowl.

 

[The Sean]

Not disagreeing with that.

 

[Richard]

I meant in the beginning of his career. Imran averaged in low 20s for majority of his career. And If it were only for his batting he wouldn't have been picked to play for Pakistan whgereas Kapil, Botham, Sobers, Miller could have been picked on the basis of their batting alone. And the series you talk about - Imran was picked as captain.

Imran wasn't a test class batsman in the first 10-12 years of his career, he developed into one in last 7-8 years.

Tell me - how is 29 Tests out of 88 "the majority of his career"?

'Cos that's all it was.

 

[nightprowler10]

My rankings:

(1) Sobers
(2) Imran
(3) Miller
(4) Botham

Absolutely spot on for mine. That's actually my top 4 from any lot. Can never decide on the fifth option though, probably because I might have to consider Kallis.

 

[Sanz]

Tell me - how is 29 Tests out of 88 "the majority of his career"?

'Cos that's all it was.

Did you ever go to a school where they taught you reading skills ?

http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?...edhigh=;csearch=;submit=1;.cgifields=viewtype

For his 1st 36(out of 88) tests (and 59 innings out of 126) Imran averaged under 25. Imran touched 30 for the fist time in his 50th test. And for the record in hist last 15-16 test matches Imran played mainly as a batsman not as an allrounder, I

 

[Richard]

Between his 30th and 50th he averaged 41.61. That's hardly poor.

Imran became an excellent batsman as of his 30th Test and 48th innings.

Therefore for 79 out of 126 innings he was excellent.

 

[Sanz]

Between his 30th and 50th he averaged 41.61. That's hardly poor.

Imran became an excellent batsman as of his 30th Test and 48th innings.

Therefore for 79 out of 126 innings he was excellent.

What a stupid logic..but that is expected from you. Once again you pick and choose but still fail to read properly. If Imran becamse an excellent batsman after his 30th test match then why was he averaging after the 40th test ?

Anyways I dont think you will understand..

 

[Richard]

You are the one that doesn't understand. It's not someone's cumulative average that matters. If you've been crap for a time, then have a period of being much better, it's not a case of one having to make-up for the other. Once something is replaced, it ceases to be of relevance to the thing which has replaced it. In Imran's case, any fool would be able to tell that his career as a credible Test batsman started with that century, not with the point his overall career average moved above 30. Because overall career averages, as with most people who have a lengthy career, are in Imran's case utterly meaningless.