Is Asif the best young pacer now?

itduzz · 29-01-2007, 04:33 PM

Mitchell Johnson, Sreesanth or Asif? Discuss

Jono · 29-01-2007, 04:34 PM

Obviously Asif.

rolande · 29-01-2007, 05:11 PM

Mitchell Johnson by a mile. That guy is gonna have a long career and it will be a good one too.

ripper868 · 29-01-2007, 05:21 PM

Johnson...so long as he stays away from the wacky tabaccy...

Tim · 29-01-2007, 05:25 PM

that's ridiculous to rate Johnson ahead of Asif when Asif has been damaging in both forms of the game. Johnson hasn't even played test cricket yet.

Jono · 29-01-2007, 05:27 PM

Haha I know.

Asif is already ranked #8 in the ICC test bowler rankings, after only playing 9 tests yet Johnson is better than him?

tooextracool · 29-01-2007, 05:39 PM

Asif is certainly the most proven out of all the current young seamers, and probably potentially the best too. Im actually quite satisfied with the state of fast bowling at the moment. There are several promising young fast bowlers around the world ATM, and its certainly better than the sorry state from a few years ago. The bowlers who were in the same position 5 years ago or so who should be in their prime now- Ntini, Hoggard, Flintoff, Bond, Harmison, Nel, Sami, Nehra have all due to injury or just not being good enough merely amounted to good but nothing special(less so in the case of Harmison, Sami and Nehra). Consequently the quality of international cricket has declined and only Australia has managed to maintain any sort of standard.
At least with Asif, Steyn, Taylor, Gul, Sreesanth, possibly Anderson and Johnson the future looks a lot brighter, although injury and other circumstances(ahem steroids) could play a major part in resulting in the same

Tim · 29-01-2007, 05:44 PM

Although Mark Gillespie is 27, I think he's fairly promising too. He'll be dangerous in the WorldCup with Bond and Mills I believe.

TT Boy · 29-01-2007, 05:44 PM

Head and shoulders.

FRAZ · 29-01-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tooextracool

Asif is certainly the most proven out of all the current young seamers, and probably potentially the best too. Im actually quite with the state of fast bowling at the moment. There are several promising young fast bowlers around the world ATM, and its certainly better than the sorry state a few years ago. The bowlers who were in the same position 5 years ago or so who should be in their prime now- Ntini, Hoggard, Flintoff, Bond, Harmison, Nel, Sami, Nehra have all due to injury or just not being good enough merely amounted to being good but nothing special. Consequently the quality of international cricket has declined and only Australia has managed to maintain any sort of standard.
At least with Asif, Steyn, Taylor, Gul, Sreesanth, possibly Anderson and Johnson the future looks a lot brighter, although injury and other circumstances(ahem steroids) could play a major part in resulting in the same

I am sorry "my ideologies" and "mental categorizism" ,Oh God I am sorry but here I will have to agree with this man over this point . Good man..... Thanx

Richard · 29-01-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tooextracool

The bowlers who were in the same position 5 years ago or so who should be in their prime now- Ntini, Hoggard, Flintoff, Bond, Harmison, Nel, Sami, Nehra have all due to injury or just not being good enough merely amounted to being good but nothing special.

Ntini, Flintoff, Bond and Nel all still have the chance to become good Test bowlers IMO.

Richard · 29-01-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim

Although Mark Gillespie is 27, I think he's fairly promising too. He'll be dangerous in the WorldCup with Bond and Mills I believe.

For one who made such an inglorious journey to international cricket, he's sure as hell done a lot right so far.

Richard · 29-01-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ripper868

Johnson...so long as he stays away from the wacky tabaccy...

Johnson smokes?

That sure as should set him back if so.

Richard · 29-01-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim

that's ridiculous to rate Johnson ahead of Asif when Asif has been damaging in both forms of the game. Johnson hasn't even played test cricket yet.

Hmm... let's look at the location and post-counts of those two identities now... and then jump to a logical conclusion...

Beleg · 29-01-2007, 06:39 PM

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Ntini, Flintoff, Bond and Nel all still have the chance to become good Test bowlers IMO.

Ntini and Flintoff are 'GOOD' test bowlers already. Nel is borderline (I personally like the look of him a lot), and Bond, if he played with any sort of regularlity at all, would be the best of the lot.

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29-01-2007, 04:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,539	Obviously Asif.

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Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	that's ridiculous to rate Johnson ahead of Asif when Asif has been damaging in both forms of the game. Johnson hasn't even played test cricket yet.

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Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,539	Haha I know. Asif is already ranked #8 in the ICC test bowler rankings, after only playing 9 tests yet Johnson is better than him?

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Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Although Mark Gillespie is 27, I think he's fairly promising too. He'll be dangerous in the WorldCup with Bond and Mills I believe.

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