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Odd Career charts

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Nonsense, it patently had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with that injury and was simply batsmen working him out, which was always going to happen because he was nothing but a one-trick pony.




(Please - PLEASE - will everyone note the sarcasm this time? :()
 

shortpitched713

International Captain
Well you did say please twice and once in bold so I won't mention the fact that Gough is an excellent bowler and that your talking rubbish. :p
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Turning and\or uneven, then.

No spinner is indifferent to turning pitches. That'd completely defy the logic of their art.

Kumble thrives on both.
Kumble gets negliable turn and doesn't get many wickets as a result of turn - so obviously a turning pitch won't make a great deal of difference to him. He bowls well on pitches with a lot of bounce - and he bowls exceptionally on pitches with inconsistent bounce.

Bowlers are different and will have differing success depending on what pitch is served up - even bowlers of the same generic description. Kumble may be defined as a "leg break" bowler but he generally doesn't aim to get wickets through turning past the bat - rather surprising batsmen with differing speeds and bounce heights.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
I actually think Kumble does benefit from turning wickets a little more than people realise. Obviously the best pitch for Kumble would be an uneven one, but he's definitely more dangerous when there's a bit of turn in the wicket, largely because it makes his variations more potent when he's also got his leg-break turning a bit.

Obviously doesn't rely on turning conditions as much as some other spinners, though.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Kumble gets negliable turn and doesn't get many wickets as a result of turn - so obviously a turning pitch won't make a great deal of difference to him. He bowls well on pitches with a lot of bounce - and he bowls exceptionally on pitches with inconsistent bounce.

Bowlers are different and will have differing success depending on what pitch is served up - even bowlers of the same generic description. Kumble may be defined as a "leg break" bowler but he generally doesn't aim to get wickets through turning past the bat - rather surprising batsmen with differing speeds and bounce heights.
Kumble gets negligable turn on a flattish pitch. He does turn it on a drier one. Which is why he's been much more effective in India than anywhere else.

And I've said it before and will say it again - no bowler ever beats batsmen with bounce alone. Uneven bounce, yes, but you do not get top-quality batsmen out by hitting the spice of the bat or getting them to fend-off.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Yeah, it's fairly ignorant to say that Kumble doesn't benefit from turning pitches - witness his ball to Collingwood last year.
 

shortpitched713

International Captain
What's Gough got do with anything, though?

Botham was the bowler in question.
Haha, Goughy needs to change his username.

And you had earlier given him a sarcastic remark reffering to Darren Gough. But I knew you all were talking about Ian Botham.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Because that's what people here on CW do!

You've been around long enough to know that, surely? ;)

They spot tiny mistakes and blow them up beyond all proportion. :mellow:
 

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