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    Why is Jacques Kallis so disliked?

    He scores runs and he's selfish, boring and dour, only batting to boost his average.. He takes wickets, and it's because he's only doing it to boost his average, against a minnow or on an appaling pitch..

    Can Jacques Kallis do anything right? What would he have to do to be considered among the likes of Tendulkar or Yousuf?
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    I really like Kallis as a player. I can't understand why some people don't like a player just because he bats slowly, these people are really important to cricket as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Talk.
    Whats the point in that post?


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    I think part of the reason is that he doesn't score runs in style, if that makes any sense. He doesn't have as many big innings in high profile matches as, say Sachin, Lara, Ponting, Inzamam, and lately Yousuf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    I really like Kallis as a player. I can't understand why some people don't like a player just because he bats slowly, these people are really important to cricket as a whole.
    Balance is important, bar Prince, strokemakers bat around him.. I think he fits in nicely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt View Post
    Whats the point in that post?
    To point out that what he could do to be perceived as less selfish is talk more.

    That, IMO, is the only reason he is perceived as selfish. It's utter bull**** as far as I'm concerned, Rahul Dravid (as has been discussed before) is in many ways similar, the big difference being that he talks and Kallis doesn't. Were Kallis to explain more stuff he's done, such as those second-innings' at Centurion and The SCG, I don't believe he'd have this "selfish" rubbish thrown his way.

    But Kallis is a shy guy and doesn't feel he has to explain himself to the masses, as demonstrated by his response to that fool who thought he had the right to tell Kallis he had no choice but to sing the anthem out loud.

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    I rate him very highly as a player.

    The area I dont like him in is purely irrational but never-the-less I cant get out of my head.

    He has that look about him that screams he should be in a uniform with a sjambok beating down on someone. He just looks like a nasty bastard to me.

    As I said, completely unjustified and irrational but I cant get that vision of him out of my head. Obviously its not true, so Im not judging or accusing him.

    Its just everytime I see him, the vision of a nasty apharteid era policeman jumps into my mind.
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    "Kallis doesn't accelerate when the team needs to, unlike Dravid who does."

    Thats the reason, but its not a very good one. I think he is a fine world class player.

    He is a lot better than Dravid as a player but not as good a batsman. Kallis, Dravid and probably Inzy are in the 2nd tier of batsmen in WC. Not having any double centuries hurts him a lot.

    First tier being Lara, Sachin and probably soon Ponting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    I rate him very highly as a player.

    The area I dont like him in is purely irrational but never-the-less I cant get out of my head.

    He has that look about him that screams he should be in a uniform with a sjambok beating down on someone. He just looks like a nasty bastard to me.

    As I said, completely unjustified and irrational but I cant get that vision of him out of my head. Obviously its not true, so Im not judging or accusing him.

    Its just everytime I see him, the vision of a nasty apharteid era policeman jumps into my mind.
    I can't believe you're the only one.

    As I said - Kallis doesn't give off that aura of warmth, friendliness. Not dissimilar to Geoff Boycott at all. Boycs, of course, was found by everyone who approached him to be a perfectly friendly fellow who was well-liked by those who offered him friendship. Kallis, I imagine, is similar.

    I can sort of identify with that because I myself am quite similar.

    I personally would guess that Kallis is a perfectly nice fellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    "Kallis doesn't accelerate when the team needs to, unlike Dravid who does."

    Thats the reason, but its not a very good one. I think he is a fine world class player.
    And yet in both prominent recent cases (cases where that cost the team, that is - there are many when he did such because he had every right to to such), there has been thoroughly good reason for said non-accelleration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    And yet in both prominent recent cases (cases where that cost the team, that is - there are many when he did such because he had every right to to such), there has been thoroughly good reason for said non-accelleration.
    Thats why I said its not a very good reason. The times when he doesn't sticks out more than the times he does.

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    Yeah I think he's a perfectly nice bloke.. Apparently some guys met him at a club in PE and although he seemed pretty shy, was a decent bloke

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Thats why I said its not a very good reason. The times when he doesn't sticks out more than the times he does.
    It's a completely unacceptible reason. It's a reason only perpetuated by those who don't understand the game of cricket (or those pratts like EXD who just search for every reason they can possibly find to talk down SAfricans).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    It's a completely unacceptible reason. It's a reason only perpetuated by those who don't understand the game of cricket (or those pratts like EXD who just search for every reason they can possibly find to talk down SAfricans).
    Errr, not disagreeing with you.

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