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    What should be the England side in 2003 season, and England A ( if there was one)

    I go along with this:-


    England



    Trescothick
    Vaughan
    Butcher
    Hussain
    Thorpe ( if he gets sorted)
    Stewart
    Troughton
    Flintoff
    Giles ( No other spinner got Enough at the moment)
    Caddick
    Gough
    Jones

    12th man Hoggard


    A team (if they was one and in any order)

    Fulton
    Rampakash
    Bell
    Crawley
    Foster
    White
    K.Ali
    Anderson
    Harminson
    Scohfield
    Joyce

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    I wouldn't pick Troughton as he needs more experiance, he's only played one season!!! And I wouldn't pick Kadeer, I need more proof he can play.

    Test Squad:

    Marcus Trescothick
    Michael Vaughan
    Mark Butcher
    Nasser Hussain
    John Crawley
    Ian Bell
    Alec Stewart (Wk) (David Nash when Stewart retires)
    Ashley Giles (or if he starts becoming ineffective again then bring in Phil Tufnell who would bat at 11)
    Darren Gough (if he's fit, if not then Andy Caddick)
    Simon Jones (or Steve Harmison till Jones is fit)
    Matthew Hoggard

    12th man: Andrew Flintoff

    A Team:

    David Fulton
    Ian Ward
    Owais Shah
    Jamie Troughton
    Ed Joyce
    Vikram Solanki
    Tim Ambrose (Wk) (or Andy Pratt if he starts batting well)
    Chris Schofield
    Kabir Ali
    James Kirtley
    Jimmy Anderson

    12th Man: Martin Saggers

    Oh and I'll bring in my ODI side too:

    Marcus Trescothick
    Nick Knight
    Andrew Flintoff
    Nasser Hussain
    Owais Shah
    Ian Bell or Jamie Troughton
    Ian Blackwell or Paul Collingwood
    Alec Stewart
    Jeremy Snape
    Darren Gough (if he's not fit I'd gamble on giving Simon Jones a go)
    James Kirtley (Or Andy Caddick)

    12th man: Michael Vaughan

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    Why is Foster is getting picked ahead of Read. Read can bat way better than Foster. I still remember the 50 he made against SAF. Also James drops a lot of catches to be called a good keeper.

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    Originally posted by vishnureddy
    Why is Foster is getting picked ahead of Read. Read can bat way better than Foster. I still remember the 50 he made against SAF. Also James drops a lot of catches to be called a good keeper.
    I have no idea, he seems to have been picked on his batting, which has turned out not to be that impressive. He can't keep wicket either so I dunno why they are keeping with him, consistancy maybe. Anyway good post Chris.


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    Rik you mentioned that Solanki is not a good one day player but he scored a number of runs at run a ball this season. I thought he was a sehwag type player as he even run a ball in 1 class also.

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    Originally posted by vishnureddy
    Rik you mentioned that Solanki is not a good one day player but he scored a number of runs at run a ball this season. I thought he was a sehwag type player as he even run a ball in 1 class also.
    I never said he wasn't a good one day player, I just said he was more at home in the longer game.

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    Tests:

    Trescothick
    Vaughan
    Butcher
    Hussain
    Crawley
    Ward
    Stewart
    Flintoff
    Giles
    Caddick
    Hoggard

    This is assuming Gough doesn't come back, Crawley for consistency though he needs to do a job, Ward because he had an amazing year so deserves another chance against someone easier than Australia.

    ODIs

    Trescothick
    Knight
    Hussain
    Vaughan
    Collingwood
    Flintoff
    Stewart
    Blackwell
    Snape
    Caddick
    Hoggard

    Pretty much agree with Riks A team, most of those names should be in the selectors' thoughts.
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    Test Team

    1)Trescothick
    2)Vaughan
    3)Butcher
    4)Hussain
    5)Thorpe
    6)Flintoff
    7)Ambrose
    8)Giles
    9)Caddick
    10)Jones
    11)Hoggard



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    I think Ian Ward is terrific talent. He and and fellow Ian (Bell that is) should go really far. I saw him bat in the West Indies last year and he had a fantastic series.

    His problem last year, in the Ashes, was to do with his grip and likely stemmed from a lack of confidence. He definitely deserves another look into though.
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    Ward's 30, so not one for the future!

    For me:
    Trescothick
    Vaughan
    Butcher
    Hussain
    Thorpe
    Bell
    Flintoff
    Read
    Giles
    Jones
    Hoggard

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    But there's nothing to say someone at 30 can't come into the side and be a success for a few years. I also forgot to state that I would have Chris Read as my back up keeper after Stewart, and look out for a young guy called Williams at Gloucestershire, he is an exceptional gloveman, as is Pipe at Worcestershire. Actually there are loads of good young keepers coming through in England at the moment, so at least we won't have a problem in that department.

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    Chris Read doesn't get a fair crack of the whip because Nottinghamshire never has been a "fashionable" county, has it?

    Trescothick
    Vaughan
    Butcher
    Hussain
    Bell or Thorpe
    Flintoff
    Read
    Giles
    Caddick
    Gough
    Hoggard

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    A Team - Ramprakash, White, Ward, Crawley and Fulton shouldn't come close, they're all far too old for what should be a vehicle for newer players' experience.
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    But a 30 year old opener when we have Banger and Vaughan won't get close - and don't put him in the middle order, it didn't work before, and he's still opening for Surrey.

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    Another Australian-esque victim!! A talent but no place in the team!

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    Except he doesn't really have talent.

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