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Or it would more likely flatter to deceive. As if these are such poor players against wristspin, he could conceivably do very well and still be mediocrity personified.
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Richard
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Getting as you have Cullen and Bailey mixed-up, Cullen isn't even in the White mould - White is a batsman who's supposedly able to bowl. Cullen is a bowler who's supposedly able to bowl.
To date, neither have achieved much of note with the ball and I have to deeply doubt either will.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
I know, that's the point I was making comparing him to White (who is the opposite).
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
I thought White used to be a bowling all rounder but I didn't think his bowling was this bad.
The new Shane Warne
The new Shane Warne
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
TBF I never heard anyone go quite that far.
Blond Hair,Bowls Leggies.There were comparisons to Warney allright when White burst on the scene and people were thinking he was going to be the next great spin hope.Agree that he's a completely different bowler to Warne.Don't think i've seen White turn a ball
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
The blond-Victorian-wristspinner stuff was mostly tongue-in-cheek. At least from those who knew what they were on about.
No-one seriously believed White would ever come close to emulating Warne. I find it utterly inconceivable that their bowling has anything in common. For a start, White has always lacked Warne's accuracy.
No-one seriously believed White would ever come close to emulating Warne. I find it utterly inconceivable that their bowling has anything in common. For a start, White has always lacked Warne's accuracy.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
I don't think that anyone seriously believed that White would ever be able to emulate Warne. However, he was still meant to have the potential to be around the MacGill standard when he was u-19, but he seems to have fallen away somehwat.
Prince EWS
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Well, his bowling actually is similar to that of Kumble - it's just nowhere near as good, and never will be. Much like how I'm a similar bowler to Jason Krejza.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
My point was that he will have the opportunity to get more of a bowl. Given the poor standard of play against wrist spinners, he could be given the ball more than he would in South Africa, and hence be given a greater opportunity to work on and improve his bowling.
deeps
International 12th Man
ok seriously, i don't see anything special about White's bowling at all.
Somehow, he seems to have got a reputation as an 'all rounder', and so then he gets to bowl a few overs.
Michael Clarke isnt even considered an all rounder as such, and i'd rather bowl Clarke over White.
I mean seriously, his bowling is NOTHING special, i've seen club cricketers bowl better spin than him.
His batting alone, would not get him into the Australian side either. It's far too hit and miss, there's far better players in the domestic circuit.
People say 'he's working on his leg spin'... You DO NOT 'work on your leggies' in an international cricket match.
You harness your skills at domestic level, and showcase them at international. He doesn't even have a decent stock leggy for crying out loud.
He's something like 23 years old, if he hasn't managed to learn how to bowl a leggie by now, god save him.
It's like Australia picked a random player who was young, and said 'you son, are a leg spinner, who can bat'.. and they spread the word around that this bloke is something special and is an all rounder. No evidence to prove it from my point of view. The state boards 'promoting' their players to soound brilliant doesn't help either. The captaincy of Victoria was obviously a ploy so that everyone will say 'White is a future australian captain'
The following passage says it all really:
Fair-haired and level-headed, Cameron White has long seemed destined to play a significant role in Australia's future. Only the precise nature of that role has baffled his admirers. Nagging legspinner? Solid middle-order bat? Intuitive skipper? Or a bit of all three?
So he's destined to play a role, but no1 has any idea what role? So they tried to make him a bowler... dint work, they tried to make him a batsman, not looking all that convincing...
Somehow, he seems to have got a reputation as an 'all rounder', and so then he gets to bowl a few overs.
Michael Clarke isnt even considered an all rounder as such, and i'd rather bowl Clarke over White.
I mean seriously, his bowling is NOTHING special, i've seen club cricketers bowl better spin than him.
His batting alone, would not get him into the Australian side either. It's far too hit and miss, there's far better players in the domestic circuit.
People say 'he's working on his leg spin'... You DO NOT 'work on your leggies' in an international cricket match.
You harness your skills at domestic level, and showcase them at international. He doesn't even have a decent stock leggy for crying out loud.
He's something like 23 years old, if he hasn't managed to learn how to bowl a leggie by now, god save him.
It's like Australia picked a random player who was young, and said 'you son, are a leg spinner, who can bat'.. and they spread the word around that this bloke is something special and is an all rounder. No evidence to prove it from my point of view. The state boards 'promoting' their players to soound brilliant doesn't help either. The captaincy of Victoria was obviously a ploy so that everyone will say 'White is a future australian captain'
The following passage says it all really:
Fair-haired and level-headed, Cameron White has long seemed destined to play a significant role in Australia's future. Only the precise nature of that role has baffled his admirers. Nagging legspinner? Solid middle-order bat? Intuitive skipper? Or a bit of all three?
So he's destined to play a role, but no1 has any idea what role? So they tried to make him a bowler... dint work, they tried to make him a batsman, not looking all that convincing...
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Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Similar in terms of flatness, but nothing like in terms of accuracy.
Just depends how far you want to take the similarity, really.
You could say that I'm similar to you in that I bowl.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
They are very similar in the style they bowl and what they attempt to do. They are completely dissimilar in their execution of such though.Similar in terms of flatness, but nothing like in terms of accuracy.
Just depends how far you want to take the similarity, really.
You could say that I'm similar to you in that I bowl.
Neither gets appreciable turn, both bowl with fairly high arm actions, both bowl quickly as far as spin bowlers go, and both rely a lot on variation (of both the deliveries they bowl and the pitch) to be at maximum effectiveness. White is an extremely poor man's Kumble - a broke man's Kumble, if you will.