Jacques Rudolph signs 3 year deal with Yorkshire

[social]

Hmmm - "I'm going to turn my back on international cricket so I can improve my game by playing county cricket"

Why dont I think that's all there is to it?

 

[wpdavid]

Hmmm - "I'm going to turn my back on international cricket so I can improve my game by playing county cricket"

Why dont I think that's all there is to it?

You & me both. Either he's seriously miffed about not being selected, or there's been a falling out somewhere along the line, imo.

 

[Langeveldt]

You & me both. Either he's seriously miffed about not being selected, or there's been a falling out somewhere along the line, imo.

If so, he's a bit of a dullard.. Got to score runs to get selected mate (mind you, consistantly failing never did Smith any harm)

 

[wpdavid]

If so, he's a bit of a dullard.. Got to score runs to get selected mate (mind you, consistantly failing never did Smith any harm)

Agreed. Last time I looked, he averaged about 31 against everyone except bangladesh, so he couldn't really complain.

 

[Richard]

Erm since when is 45.21 even bigger than 45.68, let alone 10 bigger?

Rudolph's has gone down of late, then. And Pietersen's, obviously, has gone up since he started playing ODIs.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Rudolph has played 111 List-A matches.

After 17 matches he averaged 51.13. After 30, 50.34.
After 47 of them he averaged 50.67. That was up to the 2003 season.
He averaged 40.45 in his next 33 matches over the next year, until the 2004/05 season.
He's averaged 41.39 in 31 matches since.

His career average is 45.21. I'm wondering when exactly you checked his average, Richard, because I'm struggling to see when Rudolph ever averaged in the mid-50s.

 

[Richard]

He didn't - he averaged in the early 50s (at the time you stated) and Pietersen averaged in the early 40s before his ODI debut.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Good to see that you were willing to admit your error. That said, I don't see how Pietersen's ODI stats should be discounted, considering that those are runs scored at a higher level than that of Rudolph's at the time when he averaged over 50. I don't see how you can insinuate that Rudolph is potentially a better player on the basis of his OD average, then discount Pietersen's success in ODIs.

 

[Richard]

I'm not - there's no way on Earth I can ever see Rudolph being a better player than Pietersen at any level of the game.

I wasn't meaning to discount Pietersen's ODI stats (though I do think List-A should be domestic-only and not domestic-OD+ODI, but that's not really important here), just to say that there was a time when Pietersen's average was 10 lower than Rudolph's. Don't know, indeed, where I got the idea that Rudolph ever averaged 55 or so.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Can only really be a good thing for Yorkshire Cricket, a class player, and hopefully him and Younis will score plenty of runs in the new season.

 

[Richard]

We'll need it after the loss of Lehmann.

 

[PhoenixFire]

We sure will. Younis > Lehmann

 

[Richard]

I honestly don't think the two can be separated. Both brilliant players. Younis, to date, unproven in English domestic-First-Class-cricket, though.

 

[PhoenixFire]

I suppose. I see no reason why he shouln't be any better than Lehmann though.

 

[Richard]

Haha, I see it as dangerous to expect anyone, no matter how good, to average all but 70 over 7 seasons as Boof did.

 

[PhoenixFire]

I'm not saying he will, he can.

 

[Richard]

"I see no reason why he shouldn't"

Didja mean "I see no reason why he couldn't", then?

'Cos they sure is very, very different.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Anyone who thinks Younis Khan is a better player than Darren Lehmann is clearly under-rating Lehmann's ability. Lehmann may well be the most under-rated of Australian batsmen of his generation. Or at least he's among them.

 

[Perm]

Anyone who thinks Younis Khan is a better player than Darren Lehmann is clearly under-rating Lehmann's ability. Lehmann may well be the most under-rated of Australian batsmen of his generation. Or at least he's among them.

Definately agree with you mate, he's been murdering the attacks in England and Australia for years.

 

[Richard]

Anyone who thinks Younis Khan is a better player than Darren Lehmann is clearly under-rating Lehmann's ability. Lehmann may well be the most under-rated of Australian batsmen of his generation. Or at least he's among them.

I'd be pretty surprised if Younis does manage to emulate Lehmann's deeds. He has it in him, I don't doubt, but as I said, I'd rank it much less likely than more.