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Thread: So......was Richard Dickinson right about Harmo and Graeme Smith ?

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    So......was Richard Dickinson right about Harmo and Graeme Smith ?

    Now if I can remember correctly, Richard always used to deride Harmison as overhyped and a 'lucky' bowler ....ie a bowler who got most of his wickets not thru his own skill but the batsmen gifting them away...

    Richard also used to say that Graeme Smith was a great batsman in the making.....


    Just wondering what people make of his views a year or so after he expressed them ?
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    He was certainly right about Harmison. I don't know about the "luck" element, but about him not being accurate enough to be a consistent success at test level. Obviously way off the mark about Smith though, who he called the best since Bradman.

    It's worth remembering that Richard called heaps of bowlers lucky. Basically anyone who ever got wickets in any way other than with deliveries that swung two feet was lucky. McGrath was lucky because deliveries that seam 2-3 inches aren't any good because a batsman can "adjust" to that amount of movement. Mark Ealham on the other hand was brilliant because he swung the ball. Basically, his theories about bowling were totally warped and the fact that he was more or less correct about Harmison doesn't matter much.

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    So, Where is the great man (Richard) now ?

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    I have never been impressed with Greame Smith apart from the English tour in 2002 when he made those two double centuries. He doesn't seem to be making many runs lately and is on the verge imo of being dropped. I know its a pretty big call because he's captain but honestly he needs some runs.


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    I never really thought Richard understood enough about bowling...which is why he put a lot of player's successes down to luck. He was right about Harmison though, but it doesn't take Einstein to work out that with that action, and not enough application, things will go horribly wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Son Of Coco View Post
    I never really thought Richard understood enough about bowling...which is why he put a lot of player's successes down to luck. He was right about Harmison though, but it doesn't take Einstein to work out that with that action, and not enough application, things will go horribly wrong.
    Yep. Let's not forget he (unironically) claimed to know more about Flintoff's bowling than Fred himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salamuddin View Post
    Richard also used to say that Graeme Smith was a great batsman in the making.....
    Smith is only 25 years old, despite having played 50 Tests. His average is still over 47, and though he has struggled in recent times, he has also shown on occasion that he is capable of playing great innings. You surely can't write him off just yet.
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    You definitely cannot write-off a 25 year old, who by the time is 28-32, will have immense experience under his belt.

    What you can say for definite though is, he is not the best since Bradman. I remember when Richard finally admitted that wasn't the case, and that it was almost certain he wouldn't turn out that way, his response was "well, you can hardly blame me for thinking it at the time" or something along those lines. Yikes.
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    It was a stupid thought at the time and a stupider one now, so I feel fully within my rights to blame him for thinking it.

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    To be fair... he was right about both of them IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Halsey View Post
    To be fair... he was right about both of them IMO.
    That Smith was likely to be the best batsman since Bradman?

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    How can you say a 25-year-old batsman is not going to be great? And more to the point, may I get the lottery numbers?

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    Smith is a lot better player than most people give him credit for. He has a pretty good test record, and had to cope with being captain too.
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    He seemed to think a lot of bowlers were crap, one of them was bound to prove him right.

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    Well seeing as one of his proclamations on Harmy was "Steve Harmison is unable to bowl well", I'd give him 0/2.
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