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    Personally, I'd have a look at your list of "greats of the modern game" who have made Warne look "ordinary". Warne's never really played against Flower - only one test match against Zimbabwe, and in ODIs he did pretty well against him, dismissing him three times in 12 matches. And Inzamam has always struggled against Warne, which is one of the main reasons his record against Australia isn't all that great, while Pakistan is probably Warne's favourite nation to bowl to after England.

    Not going to argue with the actual content of the letter since that's beside the point of the thread, but it weakens your argument to have those two in there, and you'd be better off replacing them with two other batsmen with more success against Warne.
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    I can think of Chris Cairns, but any other Batsmen who have had a good time of it against him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    I can think of Chris Cairns, but any other Batsmen who have had a good time of it against him?

    I know Mark Waugh and Lehmann played him really well, but not sure if you should include Aussies
    You know it makes sense.

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    Yeah I assume people like Hayden would have played him well. Any other international players?


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    Shastri (although that was early on) also Hansie C had a couple of good innings against him and VVS Laxman

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    I can think of Chris Cairns, but any other Batsmen who have had a good time of it against him?
    Fleming has always done very well against Warne and Murali and is a very good player of spin. Gary Kirsten struggled against Warne early in his career but played him very well later. Aravinda De Silva always played Warne well, and then of course there's a number of Indian batsmen other than Tendulkar, particularly Azharuddin and at times Laxman, though not really in 2004.

    I'm not sure you can find any non-Indian batsmen other than Lara who have genuinely had the best of Warne by a significant distance over a decent range of matches though. Even Pietersen's had the odd problem against Warne. Any of those above could be a reasonable pick, though.

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    Spinners get hit out ther ground more then Fast Bowlers do

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    Yeah I remember that Laxman innings (281*?), didn't Ganguly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    Yeah I remember that Laxman innings (281*?), didn't Ganguly?
    Ganguly plays everyone well, but does not 'go to town' on anyone really, just plays the ball on its merits

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    Ganguly plays everyone well when the ball is pitched up, but does not 'go to town' on anyone really, just plays the ball on its merits
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    Just a small change
    He's scared of short-pitched bowling from Warne too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    Shastri (although that was early on) also Hansie C had a couple of good innings against him and VVS Laxman
    VVS pretty much plays well against all Aussie bowlers, McGrath too. Unfortunately, he doesn't carry that form over to any other team or he'd be the best batsman in Indian history.
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    Yeah, VVS always seems to play well against Australia, he made real fools of McGrath and Warne.

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    IIRC hasn't Tendulkar laid into McGrath a couple of times, in one-day cricket though. Thinking of this game in particular.

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