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Double Standards by The West?

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Don't think the NFL is governed by the USADA (US arm of WADA)

US lawmakers have threatened to impose USADA-style doping programmes upon US sport leagues but have never done so, appearing satisfied with actions taken by American football, baseball, basketball and ice hockey leagues even though they fall well short of WADA standards for random testing and punishments.
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
gunner said:
has anyone got a reason or is gonna prove why WADA didnt say anything?
The rest of the world couldn't really care less about American sports?
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Shouldn't this be in the Sports Forum rather than CC?

Anyway, Association Football has a history of being soft on drugs too: Rio only got 8 months & (IIRC) Jaap Stam got something like 4 months for testing positive.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
BoyBrumby said:
Shouldn't this be in the Sports Forum rather than CC?

Anyway, Association Football has a history of being soft on drugs too: Rio only got 8 months & (IIRC) Jaap Stam got something like 4 months for testing positive.
None of the major US sports (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL) are governed by WADA.
 

gunner

U19 Cricketer
1. USA is a signatory of the WADA code. Players test positive for performance enhancing drugs. The NFL in USA suspends players for 4 weeks after they test positive for performance enhancing substances. WADA do nothing.

2. Pakistan is a signatory of the WADA code. Two men test positive for nandrolone in internal PCB tests done out of competition. An independent tribunal clears two men of doping under the PCB Anti Doping Code. WADA take them to court of arbitration.
 
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superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
gunner said:
1. USA is a signatory of the WADA code. Players test positive for performance enhancing drugs. The NFL in USA suspends players for 4 weeks after they test positive for performance enhancing substances. WADA do nothing.

2. Pakistan is a signatory of the WADA code. Two men test positive for nandrolone in internal PCB tests done out of competition. An independent tribunal clears two men of doping under the PCB Anti Doping Code. WADA take them to court of arbitration.
AFAIK USADA conforms to the WADA code, but NFL isn't governed by USADA
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
BoyBrumby said:
Anyway, Association Football has a history of being soft on drugs too: Rio only got 8 months
Didn't test positive though. Didn't test negative either, mind...
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
steds said:
Didn't test positive though. Didn't test negative either, mind...
S'the point tho, innit? If you make it a lesser offence than testing positive there's no mileage in peeing in the cup, is there?
 

Legga

Banned
Americans are soft on drugs in sport but strict on sports corruption.
What is worse?
Watching a game of baseball with most of them on the juice.
or
Watching a Pakistan/India/South African one-dayer where the 'result' has already been decided before a ball has been bowled.
 

Turbinator

Cricketer Of The Year
Legga said:
Americans are soft on drugs in sport but strict on sports corruption.
What is worse?
Watching a game of baseball with most of them on the juice.
or
Watching a Pakistan/India/South African one-dayer where the 'result' has already been decided before a ball has been bowled.
Juice is legal :ph34r: .
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Coming next - SP tests positive at a Scrabble Tournament and doesn't get a ban.

Someone misses point and moans that its double standards...

(Note that I am in no way making any derogatory comment about SP - for once ;))
 

shortpitched713

International Captain
Dude, whaaaaa?

America is America; England, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa are "the West".
Get your ******* facts straight!
 

Dasa

International Vice-Captain
shortpitched713 said:
Dude, whaaaaa?

America is America; England, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa are "the West".
Get your ******* facts straight!
Nah, America is considered part of the 'West', as is Europe.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Four week is a joke, just as the PCB decides to clear their two best bowlers. It shows that both codes are pretty soft about it.

Imagine if stuff like DNA testing were brought in, how many would be kicking up a hissy fit over civil rights (was an extreme example TBF)?
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Im not going to read through the whole thread as Im in a hurry. but the initial post is just plain stupid and looking for trouble.

What the hell has the US got to do with the West and what has American Football got to do with other sports and governing bodies.

American Football is not governed by World Doping laws. In fact the laws are stupidly lax.

In the NFL the 1st time a player is caught for drugs they are warned and not even their own team or the press are informed. The 2nd time is a 4 game ban. The third time a player is caught it is a season suspension.

However, what happens in American football is competely irrevelant to anything else. They set their standards low (as basically the sport is awash with social and performance enhancing drugs) and they need to get players and especially their stars on the field.

US domestic sports are just that. It isnt international competition. They have set their own rules in partnership with a strong players union. Most international (and many domestic) competitions are governed by the World Doping people and are treated in a uniform and unbiased fashion.

The 1st post is just plain ignorant and looking for silly excuses.
 

gunner

U19 Cricketer
how the hell did you manage to make australia part of the west?
and new zealand too?

they are the most eastern countries in the world
 

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