What's your opinion about Sanjay Bangar?

[Rik]

Originally posted by BANGered

For the last time, keep Irani out of this thread, if you want to discuss about him, you can do that in another post.

Bangar may be good or crap, you are free to express your opinion , but please, please, please make sense and stop comparing him with the new English Bothom!

I have never called Irani the new Botham, now please don't try and tell me off for things I haven't actually said. That is the thing which really annoys people on this board.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Originally posted by BANGered
Bangar may be good or crap, you are free to express your opinion , but please, please, please make sense and stop comparing him with the new English Bothom!

You're asking for it.

No one, ever, has said Irani is fit to lace Botham's boots. Comparing Bangar to Irani is a legitimate way of expressing opinions as they're both bits-and-pieces "all rounders", and have both played very well in their latest ODIs.

VandeM: Irani is a far better player now. Performances five years ago cannot be held against him.

 

[BANGered]

Oh please don't take that so seriously mate! It was sarcasm, i was puzzed to read about Irani in this thread posts after posts when the thread had nothing to do with him.Its just like finding Agarakar name in unrelated posts which led some Englishmen to mock him as "an Icon of cricket world"

 

[Neil Pickup]

It's very difficult to spot sarcasm with so many posts claiming India are favourites for the WC...

Anyway, are we going to discuss Bangar or close the thread?

 

[Choora]

Originally posted by Neil Pickup

No one, ever, has said Irani is fit to lace Botham's boots. Comparing Bangar to Irani is a legitimate way of expressing opinions as they're both bits-and-pieces "all rounders", and have both played very well in their latest ODIs.

VandeM: Irani is a far better player now. Performances five years ago cannot be held against him.

Irani is more of a bowling allrounder while Bangar is a batting allrounder, i see very little similarities b/w the 2
Also, Bangar may have done well in recent onedayers but his place in oneday side is not assured.He is right now a permanant opener of Indian test team whether he can make it 2 the onedayer side remains 2 be seen

 

[Choora]

Originally posted by Choora

Originally posted by Neil Pickup

No one, ever, has said Irani is fit to lace Botham's boots. Comparing Bangar to Irani is a legitimate way of expressing opinions as they're both bits-and-pieces "all rounders", and have both played very well in their latest ODIs.

VandeM: Irani is a far better player now. Performances five years ago cannot be held against him.

Irani is more of a bowling allrounder while Bangar is a batting allrounder, or perhaps a solid batsman who can bowl a bit, i see very little similarities b/w the 2
Also, Bangar may have done well in recent onedayers but his place in oneday side is not assured.He is right now a permanant opener of Indian test team whether he can make it 2 the onedayer side remains 2 be seen

 

[Rik]

Originally posted by BANGered

Oh please don't take that so seriously mate! It was sarcasm, i was puzzed to read about Irani in this thread posts after posts when the thread had nothing to do with him.Its just like finding Agarakar name in unrelated posts which led some Englishmen to mock him as "an Icon of cricket world"

Jokes are symbolised by or or or :P, use them next time and we won't take it seriously.

 

[CricketGuru]

Well i think Bangar hasnt played enough international cricket to really be praised or talk about, there has been a lot of players who have played that many matches and afterwards they have never been seen again because of their performance.

His bowling is well below ordinay in both ODIs and Test matches he looks more like a part time bowler to me or a bowler who is sometimes tested when everything else fails.

His batting looks better though and thats his strong point or may be only point, but i would in no way think of him as an allrounder he is to prove a hell lot in his bowling to be actually talked about or compared to any all rounder in International Cricket.

If batting is the only department he has got than i am not too sure if he will last too long especially as India has so many great batsmen already.

 

[greatindia]

Yes, India has many good batsmen but Bangar can not only bat but also can be a useful bowler in seamer frendly pitches.You see if India goes into a onedayer match with just 4 bowlers and 7 specialists batsmen, then their bowling will be very weak, but if Bangar can do a good job with the ball, then he can be very useful to the team

 

[CricketGuru]

Originally posted by greatindia

Yes, India has many good batsmen but Bangar can not only bat but also can be a useful bowler in seamer frendly pitches.You see if India goes into a onedayer match with just 4 bowlers and 7 specialists batsmen, then their bowling will be very weak, but if Bangar can do a good job with the ball, then he can be very useful to the team

Yes but uptil now he has proved nothing with the ball as he is a below average bowler who is no help if india 'needs' a bowler because he wont be much help in my point of view.

 

[marc71178]

Its just like finding Agarakar name in unrelated posts which led some Englishmen to mock him as "an Icon of cricket world"

The thing about this forum is that threads evolve, and end up moving away from the initial title - a good thing in my opinion, as it allows a little flexibility.

My AA Society is in no way mocking him, it has come about because no matter what we're talking about, he seems to end up in the conversation!

 

[marc71178]

Irani is more of a bowling allrounder while Bangar is a batting allrounder, i see very little similarities b/w the 2

Personally I'd say they're both batsmen who can bowl reasonably - neither are all-rounders, and I'd definitely say Irani is a better batsman than he is bowler.

 

[marc71178]

Yes but uptil now he has proved nothing with the ball as he is a below average bowler who is no help if india 'needs' a bowler because he wont be much help in my point of view.

Watching him bowl in England, he looked nothing like a "below average" bowler - very handy I thought, and he is a must for the WC if you ask me.

 

[marc71178]

For the last time, keep Irani out of this thread, if you want to discuss about him, you can do that in another post.

As players, Irani and Bangar are fairly similar, so I don't see why we shouldn't discuss the 2 of them.

 

[lord_of_darkness]

As players, Irani and Bangar are fairly similar, so I don't see why we shouldn't discuss the 2 of them.

yep thats right there , and its cricket talk so let it continue...

proved as to why he's still India's top oneday bowler . - agarkar

LOL i Would NEVER go as far as saying that yet... like every odd bowler , agarkar has his good day too , he hasnt been consistent or anything yet , and he has just done that to assure the selectors of his place in the Indian team for New Zealand

Bangar also did well, i can see that with Ajit and Bangar India has the best allrounder duo in cricket world right now

Again wrong statement to make there as its been discussed, their bowling and batting average are nowhere near to Real Allrounders eg , Pollock and Kallis or Kallis and Klusener , or Cairns and Harris

 

[masterblaster]

Even Azhar Mahmood and Abdur Razzaq are better than Ajit and Bangar at this stage.

 

[vandemataram]

Originally posted by masterblaster
Even Azhar Mahmood and Abdur Razzaq are better than Ajit and Bangar at this stage.

As a matter of fact Razzak is supposed to be one of the finest onedayer allrounder, while Azhar Mahmood happens to be a very capable allrounder, someone with three test tons against none other than SA !!
So if anyone fall behind in comparison to those two, it wouldn't be a shame atall.




[Edited on 24/11/2002 by vandemataram]

 

[masterblaster]

....well considering that Mahmood is dropped from both teams and Razzaq isn't exactly playing well.

 

[vandemataram]

Originally posted by masterblaster
....well considering that Mahmood is dropped from both teams and Razzaq isn't exactly playing well.

Thats really funny, Abdur Razzak isn't in the team coz he's injured (he broke his wrist) The only reason as to why Azhar doesn't get a place in test and oneday side is coz Razzak and Akram are in the team.

Just to show how well Razzak has done recently .

Last ten test bat ave:40 with 2 tons and a 50
Bow ave:22 with 26 wkts!

In last 5 test matches his batting ave come down to 25 which is still decent for an allrounder!

 

[masterblaster]

Well Razzaq has been playing recently against Bangladesh which got his averages increased, then he played against Australia which really disrupted his cricket, and yes broke his hand/wrist, but I felt he hasnt really done anything of note recently.

Sanjay Bangar has my respect and is a good and versatile player but no where is he a top all rounder along with Agarkar.